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| | | (...) I think your comment is correct, the connectability needs to encompass a minifig hat on a standard stud... where there may be weakness in their terminology is that they handle fields of studs as one... and while a minifig hat will NOT fit onto (...) (23 years ago, 29-Jan-02, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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| | | | | Re: LCD - LEGO Connection Database - Proposal —Kyle McDonald
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| | | | | Larry Pieniazek wrote: . . . (...) Hi, I first have to admit that I haven't read the whole proposal. However from what I have read, and the comments, I'm starting to think that what is being proposed is more of a standalone database that is popu (...) (23 years ago, 29-Jan-02, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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| | | | | | | Re: LCD - LEGO Connection Database - Proposal —Larry Pieniazek
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| | | | | | (...) I think that was the intent of the authors. When you get a chance to read the whole thing (and you should make yourself some clear time with no distractions, it's fairly intense reading but worth it) you'll see that they speak of things (...) (23 years ago, 29-Jan-02, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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| | | | | | | | Re: LCD - LEGO Connection Database - Proposal —Kyle McDonald
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| | | | | | | (...) Oh. I hope so. That makes more sense (at least in my head.) From some of what I read though, I got the impression that the modelling tool was supposed to get the geometry from the DAT file, but lookup the connectivity of the part in some other (...) (23 years ago, 29-Jan-02, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: LCD - LEGO Connection Database - Proposal —Larry Pieniazek
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| | | | | | | | | (...) OK, I see where you're at on that. Yes... it would be nice to just put it in the DAT file itself. Huge advantage to that is that it's there. No need for clunky lookaside files to correlate against. Huge disadvantage of course is that the DAT (...) (23 years ago, 29-Jan-02, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: LCD - LEGO Connection Database - Proposal —Steve Bliss
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| | | | | | | | (...) Hmm. Interesting. Compare and contrast various types of connections: cross-axles (can't rotate), click-hinges (rotate freely, but with 'sweet spots'), plate hinges (rotate freely). Steve (23 years ago, 30-Jan-02, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: LCD - LEGO Connection Database - Proposal —Kyle McDonald
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| | | | | | | | | Steve Bliss wrote: > In lugnet.cad.dev, Kyle McDonald wrote: > > >>This would be good. I'd like something that can describe >>joints or pivot points. >> > > Hmm. Interesting. Compare and contrast various types of connections: > cross-axles (can't (...) (23 years ago, 31-Jan-02, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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| | | | | | | | | | | Re: LCD - LEGO Connection Database - Proposal —Steve Bliss
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| | | | | | | | | | (...) Isn't that what the LCD is all about? The program can tell which piece is connected to what other piece... Now, if we can model gear-teeth meshing, that will be incredibly awesome... Steve (23 years ago, 31-Jan-02, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | Re: LCD - LEGO Connection Database - Proposal —Kyle McDonald
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| | | | | | | | | | (...) Well I think that would be a good thing, I was under the impression that the goal of LCD was to allow modelling programs to help the user properly *place* the parts, not ness. remembering the connections. But maybe I'm missing something. If (...) (23 years ago, 31-Jan-02, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | Re: LCD - LDraw Connection Database - Proposal —La'ng Attila D.
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| | | | | | | | | | | Dears, thank you for the enthusiasm you are accepting our idea with. In the case you are wondering where did we take it from, here is the explanation. Some months ago I begun to play with Lego CAD softwares, liking to build with them, but I haven't (...) (23 years ago, 31-Jan-02, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | Re: LCD - LDraw Connection Database - Proposal —La'ng Attila D.
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| | | | | | | | | | | Kyle McDonald made Thursday a point: (...) Well, let's create an example. 0 Untitled 0 Name: sample.dat 0 Author: LAD 0 Unofficial Model 0 ROTATION CENTER 0 0 0 1 "Custom" 0 ROTATION CONFIG 0 1 1 14 0 0 -20 1 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 1 3894.DAT 1 2 -20 24 -40 (...) (23 years ago, 3-Feb-02, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Re: LCD - LDraw Connection Database - Proposal —Steve Bliss
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| | | | | | | | | | | | (...) Only that editors might need to differentiate between 'rotatation' when editing a model, and 'rotation' performed within the physical constraints of a constructed model. Steve (23 years ago, 4-Feb-02, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | Re: LCD - LEGO Connection Database - Proposal —Michael Horvath
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| | | | | | | | | | You're forgetting one important connection! The connection between the tire and the road surface. What about that? -Mike (...) (23 years ago, 6-Feb-02, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | Re: LCD - LEGO Connection Database - Proposal —Kyle McDonald
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| | | | | | | | | | Michael Horvath wrote: > You're forgetting one important connection! The connection between the tire > and the road surface. What about that? > > -Mike > > Well, I think I was assuming that the 'model' itself would be moved by some other part of the (...) (23 years ago, 6-Feb-02, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | Re: LCD - LDraw Connection Database - Proposal —Kiss Attila Csongor (KACS)
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| | | | | | | | | | (...) Hi guys! What are you talking about? It's written in the proposal: "Finally, a user turns a battery switch on and the car wheels start rotating; and if there is a surface below the car, that can be observed as a connection and the car will (...) (23 years ago, 6-Feb-02, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | Re: LCD - LDraw Connection Database - Proposal —Kyle McDonald
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| | | | | | | | | | (...) Well I think we were talking more about how to actually implement it. How it would actually work. When you get into trying to model these things, I don't think this is the type of thing we can store in either the .DAT file or some new (...) (23 years ago, 6-Feb-02, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | Re: LCD - LDraw Connection Database - Proposal —Kiss Attila Csongor (KACS)
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| | | | | | | | | | (...) I think there is some examples in the proposal too. (...) Yes, I understand you! It would be a programming language based on and according to the LCD. It would be LMPL - LDraw Model Programming Language. How about that? :) But, I think we need (...) (23 years ago, 6-Feb-02, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | Re: LCD - LDraw Connection Database - Proposal —Eric Pierce
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| | | | | | | | | | (...) I think the idea of having an LMPL separate from the LCD is definitely a good idea. Not everyone is going to want to do animation or whatnot - I know that I'm personally more interested in just having a good way to connect the parts together. (...) (23 years ago, 7-Feb-02, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | Re: LCD - Calling for work —La'ng Attila D.
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| | | | | | | | | | (...) OK, ladies, gentlemen and minifigs, so everybody is agreeing it is a good idea, what is more, it is already a group of good ideas, including LCD itself (by the way, LCD could stand for Lugnet.Cad.Dev, too! :) and the LMPL language, and so on. (...) (23 years ago, 9-Feb-02, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: LCD - LEGO Connection Database - Proposal —Mark Rideout
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| | | | | | | | (...) Just my two cents on this - I would enjoy seeing the work being discussed here and the project, to be split into two versions (at least). A "version 1" would contain the data necessary to provide the "snap" information for the placing of (...) (23 years ago, 31-Jan-02, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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| | | | | | | | Re: LCD - LEGO Connection Database - Proposal —Ross Crawford
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| | | | | | | | Re: LCD - LEGO Connection Database - Proposal —Ross Crawford
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| | | | | | | (...) That'd be Karim Nassar's "Artemis" project (URL) (23 years ago, 29-Jan-02, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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| | | | | | | | Re: LCD - LEGO Connection Database - Proposal —Ross Crawford
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| | | | | | | (...) That'd be Karim Nassar's "Artemis" project (URL) but I don't think it covers connectors. ROSCO (23 years ago, 29-Jan-02, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: LCD - LEGO Connection Database - Proposal —Larry Pieniazek
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| | | | | | | | (...) Thanks for the link. Shame on me for forgetting! (23 years ago, 30-Jan-02, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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| | | | | | | | Re: LCD - LEGO Connection Database - Proposal —Steve Bliss
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| | | | | | (...) Hmm. I read this as "Larry thinks LAD and KACS meant for the LCD data to go *in* the DAT files". But reading section 1.2, (URL), makes it clear that the data is intended to be position in files outside the DATs. But the bottom line is that (...) (23 years ago, 30-Jan-02, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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| | | | | | | | Re: LCD - LEGO Connection Database - Proposal —Larry Pieniazek
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| | | | | | (...) Right. That wasn't what I was trying to say at all. I wasn't talking about format. What I was getting at was that the data (wherever it lives) was intended to be used for driving programs to make things snap into place, not just for doing (...) (23 years ago, 30-Jan-02, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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| | | | | | | | Re: LCD - LEGO Connection Database - Proposal —Steve Bliss
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| | | | | | (...) The only pain is updating all the parts at once. But if we collect and format the data, we could use a script to (a) insert the data into the files and (b) report problems: no LCD data for a file, problems inserting the LCD data into a file, (...) (23 years ago, 30-Jan-02, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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| | | | | Re: LCD - LEGO Connection Database - Proposal —Matthew Sailors
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| | | | (...) Correct. I was not faulting the authors. I only intended to point out that the community needs to work with them to flesh out the model. I hate to throw in jargon and buzzwords into a discussion, but we will need to either build or adopt an (...) (23 years ago, 29-Jan-02, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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| | | | | | Re: LCD - LEGO Connection Database - Proposal —Steve Bliss
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| | | | (...) For anyone who (else) who doesn't know what 'ontology' means, and doesn't want to depend on context to derive the meaning, (...) Steve (23 years ago, 30-Jan-02, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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| | | | | | Re: LCD - LEGO Connection Database - Proposal —Matthew Sailors
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| | | | Thank you Steve for inserting the definition that I forgot to include. (23 years ago, 30-Jan-02, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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