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  Re: Test posting of "Unoffficial Update"
 
(...) Hmmm. Maybe you're right, for the short term. But putting Unofficial on the front of the name makes it clear for everyone. Most people wouldn't know what the @-sign means. Long-term, I want to use this 'unofficial release' page as (at least) a (...) (23 years ago, 8-May-01, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Test posting of "Unoffficial Update"
 
I like my @-sign better. It only takes one character, and it puts them first in the parts list (if sorted by description, of course). I recall that someone used another character, but which one is not important. Just my 50-öring. /Tore (...) (23 years ago, 8-May-01, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Test posting of "Unoffficial Update"
 
"Steve Bliss" <steve.bliss@home.com> wrote in message news:dm3gftcj64fh7m1...4ax.com... (...) Those (...) OK, that's great. I thought I'd bring it up just in case there was a problem with code somewhere. At least this update will make it very (...) (23 years ago, 8-May-01, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Test posting of "Unoffficial Update"
 
(...) It was a direct suggestion to mark the parts all as unofficial, to make it easier to remove them later (after another official release). (...) That falls under the category of 'no review of the parts before release'. Those parts already had (...) (23 years ago, 8-May-01, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Test posting of "Unoffficial Update"
 
"Steve Bliss" <steve.bliss@home.com> wrote in message news:92sfftk3sqrfi3d...4ax.com... (...) name - (...) to (...) 'Unofficial' to (...) I thought it might be something like that. (...) keep a (...) The Unofficial is going to make it hard to find (...) (23 years ago, 8-May-01, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Test posting of "Unoffficial Update"
 
"Steve Bliss" <steve.bliss@home.com> wrote in message news:n7sfftoqrpok3da...4ax.com... (...) Join the club ... uh, scratch that, I'm a Perl "nobie" (I've got MRTG running here, that was just a case of copying the Perl scripts into a dir and running (...) (23 years ago, 8-May-01, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Test posting of "Unoffficial Update"
 
(...) Yeah, can you say "Perl newbie"? Steve (23 years ago, 8-May-01, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Test posting of "Unoffficial Update"
 
(...) It's because I had run VB program against all the files to add 'Unofficial' to the titles, but that was before I got the Darth Maul head. I need to either drop the 'Unofficial', or rework the posting process to keep a clean copy of the files (...) (23 years ago, 8-May-01, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Test posting of "Unoffficial Update"
 
(...) Nope, it's not just you. Bad me. (...) To keep you from reading the Secret Truth, why else? I'll get that fixed. I think I've got a copy of Netscape around here, somewhere. Steve (23 years ago, 8-May-01, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Test posting of "Unoffficial Update"
 
"Tore Eriksson" <tore.eriksson@mbox3...wipnet.se> wrote in message news:3AF7C4C1.341BB7...pnet.se... (...) one with the warning background is being ignored so that the background of the parent table covers the whole thing. That's really messy, (...) (23 years ago, 8-May-01, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Test posting of "Unoffficial Update"
 
(...) And Im using ns 4.76 on windows ME and I get them. Must be a browser compatibility problem. (23 years ago, 8-May-01, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Test posting of "Unoffficial Update"
 
(...) Netscape can't handle the danger stripes correctly as IE does. See (URL) (23 years ago, 8-May-01, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Test posting of "Unoffficial Update"
 
"Jonathan Wilson" <jonwil@tpgi.com.au> wrote in message news:3AF78FB3.1AC84A....com.au... (...) to (...) Looks like there is a $pn variable in the page that isn't being replaced by the actual part number. (...) What black lines? I'm using IE5.5 on (...) (23 years ago, 8-May-01, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Test posting of "Unoffficial Update"
 
One of the files in the update may have problems with LDraw - it's got a 9.3 filename instead of 8.3. The file is 3068pmaw2.dat (Tile 2 x 2, with Star Wars Mawhonic's Pod Racer pat). Just thought I'd mention it in case anyone was going to use it and (...) (23 years ago, 8-May-01, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Test posting of "Unoffficial Update"
 
Just noticed that my Darth Maul head doesn't have Unofficial in the name - is that my fault for not putting it there, or have you been adding this to the files yourself? Dan (23 years ago, 8-May-01, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Test posting of "Unoffficial Update"
 
(...) 1.is it just me or are the links to most of the parts broken? (I was able to get at the parts by manually typing in the urls :) and 2.those black lines over the text, why are they there? (23 years ago, 8-May-01, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Test posting of "Unoffficial Update"
 
OK, you asked for it, and now you've got it. I've preposted an "Unofficial Update" page at: (URL) There are no links to this page yet, so it's not officially unofficially released. Anyway, take a look, tell me what you think. The good news: I (...) (23 years ago, 8-May-01, to lugnet.cad.dev)  
 
  Re: Proposal
 
(...) We could introduce a new meta-statement to track to the language extensions used by a model file. This would allow .dat, .ldl, .mpd, and .mlc files to all use a single extension. The .lds format is different enough that it should have a unique (...) (23 years ago, 7-May-01, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Unofficial Update Progress
 
(...) Yep, I've got the 2-4ring2.dat included. My earlier list was just of parts (ie, files in the parts directory). Sorry for the confusion. Steve (23 years ago, 7-May-01, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Unofficial Update Progress
 
(...) I'm (...) part (...) in (...) These will all need a new primitive (2-4ring2.dat) included when I submitted. In the interest of expediancy, please feel free to exclude these parts from the Unofficial Update. Chris (23 years ago, 5-May-01, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Proposal
 
"Matthew Gerber" <matthew@digitaliris.com> wrote in message news:GCtx8C.8C3@lugnet.com... (...) Cool. I'd prefer the primary file extension to reflect the 'LDraw' name - 'ldr.' Some further discussion may be in order about DAT files having more than (...) (23 years ago, 4-May-01, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Proposal
 
Sorry it took so long for me to get this back. I scoured my sources and all of the Internet databases I know of, and as far as I can tell, you are free and clear on all of these extensions: .ldr .ldl .lds .mpd .mlc I wonder if someone didn't do this (...) (23 years ago, 4-May-01, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Shortcuts (was: Unofficial Update Progress)
 
(...) Instead of the pattern file naming style, use the shortcut/composite part naming style - use a C instead of a P. Also, since the torso is the central part of the shortcut, use 973 as the base number. Likewise, use the pattern number as the (...) (23 years ago, 4-May-01, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Proposal
 
Will do...look for a post tomorrow. Matt (...) (23 years ago, 4-May-01, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Proposal
 
"Matthew Gerber" <matthew@digitaliris.com> wrote in message news:GCsEHM.CD5@lugnet.com... (...) Go for it, that would be cool! Thanks! -Tim (23 years ago, 4-May-01, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Proposal
 
Tim, I have a listing of thousands of file name extensions available to me. I will search it tonight and let you all know tomorrow if the ideas you all are talking about have been used before, if you would like. LMK, Matt (23 years ago, 4-May-01, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Proposal
 
"Erik Olson" <olsone@spamcop.net> wrote in message news:GCsCrG.8n4@lugnet.com... (...) Yep, here's a few reasons: If .ldr is the standard file, people will mentally associate the editors - MLCad, LeoCAD, BrikDraw3D - viewers LDView, L3Lab - as (...) (23 years ago, 4-May-01, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  RE: Proposal
 
(...) Oh, and it would mangle it a lot more than that for DOS display... 3193~1.ldr --Bram Bram Lambrecht bram@cwru.edu (URL) (23 years ago, 4-May-01, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Proposal
 
(...) Tim (...) I like ldr too. (...) to (...) I use win2k here at work, I'll try on winme when I get home. I think you need to have the option to show file extensions enabled if you're using windows explorer, otherwise you can rename from a DOS (...) (23 years ago, 4-May-01, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  RE: Proposal
 
Erik Olson (...) Turn off that annoying "Hide extensions of known file types" option in Folder Options (or something similar) Windows 95/98/etc doesn't seem to care how long file extensions are (*.html, for example), three letters is just the norm. (...) (23 years ago, 4-May-01, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Proposal
 
(...) Well to get back to 8.3 it only takes chopping off the last 2 chars, and Tim likes .LDR . How DO you give a file a 5 letter extension in Windows? I tried it (Win95 handy...) and it keeps a secret .dat extension after that too... I wanted to (...) (23 years ago, 4-May-01, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Unofficial Update Progress
 
(...) I'm (...) part (...) in (...) Steve, I have in my possession several Complete Minifig Shortcuts, covering the first six Space groups (back when all astronauts were created equal). They are numbered as follows: 979 and 980 ... p90.dat (Classic (...) (23 years ago, 3-May-01, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Proposal
 
(...) I think we should try to keep the 8.3 filename convention from DOS because of ldraw/ledit. We can just use mpd as someone suggested. (...) Sounds like an Apple guy talking :) Leonardo (23 years ago, 3-May-01, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Proposal
 
How about .ldraw? Just thinking differently. (23 years ago, 3-May-01, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: We need an update NOW (Was: Parts Update?)
 
(...) I think a small script running "l3p -check" called from within the CVS commitinfo file would work great for this. (...) (23 years ago, 3-May-01, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: We need an update NOW (Was: Parts Update?)
 
(...) I'll go look up the discussion. I'm just getting back into the swing of things. I think CVS would be a great way of distributing the parts. There's clearly some managment tools needed to help with organizing the submissions and reviews of new (...) (23 years ago, 3-May-01, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Proposal
 
(...) What I'd really like to see, is these tools defaulting to something other than .dat when files are saved. I expect them to all still support .dat. What I'd really like to see is people publishing their files with an extension other than .dat. (...) (23 years ago, 3-May-01, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Unofficial Update Progress
 
"Jonathan Wilson" <jonwil@tpgi.com.au> wrote in message news:3AF13FF5.28B262....com.au... (...) totally (...) all (...) available (...) OK, I see what you mean. It would still mean that Steve would have to then check to see if it really is a (...) (23 years ago, 3-May-01, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Proposal
 
(...) You and Fredrik are both correct on this, of course. And most tools will accept any extension on files, so if you have a DAT model named whatever.foo, you can still render it in LDraw, LDLite or L3Lab (for example). Steve (23 years ago, 3-May-01, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Unofficial Update Progress
 
(...) Yes. And I won't even commit to exactly which one would be released (probably the one I received more recently, because that works with authors sending several different versions of their parts as they fix them). Actually, I don't *think* this (...) (23 years ago, 3-May-01, to lugnet.cad.dev)


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