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| | | Karim (knassar@mindspring.com) wrote: [...] (...) I am aware of the problems with using a different number for the part file than the one (visibly) stamped on the part, but I think it would be sufficient if a comment in the dinghy bottom (and top) (...) (26 years ago, 5-Mar-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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| | | | | Re: Part Numbering Crisis in LDraw —Jeff Boen
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| | | | (...) i agree completely... i say we handle our parts/sub parts in the same way TLG does... if glued-parts have 2 separate numbers, then lets model both halves separately, then use any conglomerate numbers for complete elements.. if they are (...) (26 years ago, 5-Mar-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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| | | | | | Re: Part Numbering Crisis in LDraw —Roy Earls
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| | | | | onyx wrote in message ... (...) library (...) possible... a (...) organize/search (...) Here you miss the point that some of us don't care a flip for TLG's nomemclature. TLG has its own reason for using it that doesn't make any sense for what we (...) (26 years ago, 6-Mar-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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| | | | | | Re: Part Numbering Crisis in LDraw —Anders Isaksson
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| | | | | onyx skrev i meddelandet ... (...) organize/search (...) If we didn't have to have compatibility with the original programs, LDRAW/LEDIT, the obvious step would be to make a database of all the parts, which would mean more effective use of the hard (...) (26 years ago, 6-Mar-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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| | | | | | Re: Part Numbering Crisis in LDraw —Steve Bliss
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| | | | (...) I'm only alright with hard-coded colors, IF they are somehow marked as not being primary parts. I would not want them all listed in as being available for building, just because it would eventually lead to parts-overload. You'd get about a (...) (26 years ago, 8-Mar-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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| | | | | | Re: Part Numbering Crisis in LDraw —Jeff Boen
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| | | | | (...) in all honesty, all i use LDraw for... to document my creations so that i have a record before i tear them apart... the only reason i model specific elements for the catalog is because i want/need them to document a RL model (well, sometimes (...) (26 years ago, 8-Mar-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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| | | | | | | Re: Part Numbering Crisis in LDraw —Karim Nassar
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| | | | | | | (...) I agree wholeheartedly... The point I tried to make earlier, was that it seems that by giveing seperate part numbers to the part, TLG is leaveing open the possibility in the future to release a part that is in two SEPARATE colors. So, my (...) (26 years ago, 9-Mar-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: Part Numbering Crisis in LDraw —Jeff Boen
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| | | | | | | | (...) that (...) possibility (...) question (...) great point.. and well thought-out... hmmmm... okay... so then as i see it we have two options.. #1 (my preference, since this is how we handle two halves of every hinge, wheel-tyre combo, etc.. (...) (26 years ago, 9-Mar-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: Part Numbering Crisis in LDraw —Steve Bliss
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| | | | | | | | (...) Just to be a pain: there are existing 'glued-together' parts in LDraw with sub-files for each component part and a main short-cut file for the whole thing. Two that spring to mind are the 2x2x11 pillar and the classic 2x4 plate hinge. (...) (...) (26 years ago, 9-Mar-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: Part Numbering Crisis in LDraw —Jeff Boen
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| | | | | | | | (...) hehe.. i can always count on you to be a pain, steve... :) every morning i come in here and check this thread and i can see everyone's point with equal value... i started in on this convo from the standpoint of "2 #16 parts, then aggregate (...) (26 years ago, 9-Mar-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: Part Numbering Crisis in LDraw —Terry Keller
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| | | | | | | | (...) True. As the best way to keep everyone at least somewhat happy. (...) I don't want to over-use 3-digit numbers. Only where necessary and unavoidable. For instance; The complete yellow dinghy does have the correct number. So we can make a (...) (26 years ago, 9-Mar-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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| | | | | | | Re: Part Numbering Crisis in LDraw —Roy Earls
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| | | | | | | onyx wrote in message ... (...) you're (...) don't (...) the (...) that (...) basic (...) to (...) LDraw (...) that (...) i (...) You've got my support here. I don't care to use LDraw as a TLG reference ...just wanna model. We need to follow the (...) (26 years ago, 9-Mar-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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| | | | | | | Re: Part Numbering Crisis in LDraw —Todd Lehman
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| | | | | | (...) ^^^...^^^ Agreed, except that in the case of the 1x2 brick -- there are two molds still in use today: one with a post down the center and one without. The one without the post is of course the one used for little windows -- like in (...) (26 years ago, 14-Mar-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Part Numbering Crisis in LDraw —Jeff Boen
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| | | | | | (...) agreed again... my point being that TLG *may* use different element numbers to differentiate between certain parts in different colors (perhaps not 1x2 bricks) but that our concern should only be separate part numbers when the physical makeup (...) (26 years ago, 14-Mar-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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| | | | | | Re: Part Numbering Crisis in LDraw —Terry Keller
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| | | | (...) The problem is a bit more narrow than that. Basic pieces, like the 1x2 brick, are not affected by all this numbering/coloring controversy. Those pieces had a simple part number that is common to all the colors. So we would NOT be having (...) (26 years ago, 9-Mar-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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| | | | | | Re: Part Numbering Crisis in LDraw —Steve Bliss
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| | | | (...) I wonder -- are there color-specific part numbers for the dinghy, because it is a compound element? So if we publish two sub-files, and no shortcut, we skip the whole issue. But not publishing a shortcut seems really lame. The "part" is final (...) (26 years ago, 9-Mar-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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| | | | | | Re: Part Numbering Crisis in LDraw —Terry Keller
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| | | | | (...) We could go that route, just have the two halves and no shortcut. The important thing is this would still be an accurate use of the numbers, but without carring it to the logical extreme and having the complete part. (...) True. Note that in (...) (26 years ago, 9-Mar-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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| | | | | | | Re: Part Numbering Crisis in LDraw —Steve Bliss
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| | | | | | (...) LDAO could be set up to ignore any unique marker in the descriptive name. At this time, any user can do it themselves, by editing the ldraw.ini. The default settings ignore moved files, 'delete me' files, and light.dat. (...) I'm assuming (...) (26 years ago, 10-Mar-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Part Numbering Crisis in LDraw —Anders Isaksson
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| | | | | | Hi! Steve Bliss skrev i meddelandet <36e6742d.1574130@lu...et.com>... (...) will (...) Have You tried my search program? Version 3.4 of LDLIST is available for download at (URL) Summary: Ldlist is a little Windows program made for searching the (...) (26 years ago, 10-Mar-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Part Numbering Crisis in LDraw —Steve Bliss
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| | | | | | (...) Yes, I use it often. It's Extremely Wonderful. (...) That would be great. I'm planning on adding support for KEYWORDS and CATEGORY to LDAO, but haven't had the time yet... Steve (26 years ago, 10-Mar-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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| | | | | | Re: Part Numbering Crisis in LDraw —Kim Toll
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| | | | | Steve Bliss wrote in message <36e52d27.5283445@lu...et.com>... (...) Not that I think this should affect the outcome of this discussion or anything, but there is at least one part that has a 7xxxx number stamped on it. The gold insectoid eye (i.e. (...) (26 years ago, 10-Mar-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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| | | | | | | Re: Part Numbering Crisis in LDraw —Steve Bliss
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| | | | | | (...) ...I might disagree with that point... (...) And on then at 05:14:29 GMT, Joshua Delahunty <dulcaoin@alumni.cse.ucsc.edu> wrote: (...) :-P, yourself. (...) Wow. Blows my theory. Do we know if, in these examples, the numbers are color-specific? (...) (26 years ago, 10-Mar-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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| | | | | | | | chrome/aluminum/silver —Todd Lehman
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| | | | | | (...) TLG called it Silver last year. --Todd (26 years ago, 15-Mar-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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| | | | | | Re: Part Numbering Crisis in LDraw —Joshua Delahunty
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| | | | (...) Well then; Surprise! :-P The following 7xxxx numbers are embossed on elements: 70163 Metal Counter-Weight Wedge 70942 1x2 Tile, Top Center Ball: Chrome 70969 Mini-Figure Exhaust Pipe, Right: Chrome 70972 Mini-Figure Exhaust Pipe, Left: Chrome (...) (26 years ago, 10-Mar-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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