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Re: i admit i was wrong —Tamyra Teed

I thought this mentoring thing was already done with him.. when it came to doing parts??? from what I've read.. I haven't checked any of them though.. it seems to have helped a little as far as his parts??? though it seemed as of the time he then (...) (25 years ago, 13-Aug-99, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.admin.general)

Re: i admit i was wrong —Anders Isaksson

Mookie skrev i meddelandet <37B4507F.81B41AA8@w...tt.net>... (...) Well, throwing people out of the door is not the most pedagogic (w/sp?) way of teaching them, is it? -- Anders Isaksson, Sweden BlockCAD: (2 URLs) (25 years ago, 13-Aug-99, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.admin.general)

Re: i admit i was wrong —Tamyra Teed

(...) I never said anything about doing that... I even said Time will tell at the end of the message. Though.. to that question.. here's another answer... When your employer asks you many times to do something, and you still don't do it how they (...) (25 years ago, 13-Aug-99, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.admin.general)

Re: i admit i was wrong —Larry Pieniazek

(...) Here in the US, yes. Unfortunately that is not the case in all of Europe, though. And we're talking about volunteerisim here. Just as a side point I almost destroyed an entire club once trying to apply the way the working world works to (...) (25 years ago, 14-Aug-99, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.admin.general)

Re: i admit i was wrong —Todd Lehman

(...) For sociological reasons, yes? --Todd (25 years ago, 14-Aug-99, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.admin.general)

Re: i admit i was wrong —Larry Pieniazek

(...) For logical reasons. To be fired, you have to be employed, or at least there has to be some sort of fixed arrangement that you can be dismissed from (you can be fired from a volunteer job, but you can't be "fired" from hanging around the (...) (25 years ago, 14-Aug-99, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.admin.general)

Re: i admit i was wrong —Adam Howard

Larry Pieniazek <lar@voyager.net> wrote in message news:37B5A8FA.53861C...ger.net... (...) This is the type of thing I've been worried about. Is this doing more harm or good. I am a relatively new part author (1 year of experience). I'm working on a (...) (25 years ago, 15-Aug-99, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.admin.general)

Re: i admit i was wrong —Tom McDonald

(...) Absolutely. It goes on frequently in the world. (...) Ideally, it should be for the good of both. Hurting another's feelings isn't the issue (though it happens), and it never should be when there are things to be gained by both sides in a (...) (25 years ago, 15-Aug-99, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.admin.general)

Re: i admit i was wrong —Todd Lehman

(...) Well, yes and no, right? * Yes in the sense that "ostracism" means (1) "a method of temporary banishment by popular vote without trial or special accusation practiced in ancient Greece" and (2) "exclusion by general consent from common (...) (25 years ago, 15-Aug-99, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.admin.general)

Re: i admit i was wrong —Todd Lehman

(...) BTW, if the group does decide to hold a vote on this, I'll be sitting on the sideline -- I won't be casting a vote on this. For the record, however -- and this is only my opinion having followed this very closely since its inception -- I do (...) (25 years ago, 15-Aug-99, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.admin.general)

Re: i admit i was wrong —Tom McDonald

(...) A common priviledge here on lugnet is being able to post to any group, which would be revoked if the vote is against him. Exclusion from social acceptance could be achieved by no one answering his posts even with an "I don't know/don't (...) (25 years ago, 15-Aug-99, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.admin.general)

Re: i admit i was wrong —Todd Lehman

(...) Whoops! There are two #5's up there, eh? :o) By the second #5, I really meant the lugnet.starwars group in particular, although other people may have discovered other areas of related concern, disgust, or disappointment. For instance, there's (...) (25 years ago, 15-Aug-99, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.admin.general)

Re: i admit i was wrong —Tim Courtney

(...) About these voting options, the votes for a more severe restriction should carry over to a less severe restriction if that particular restriction recieves the 2/3 majority votes. For example: 25% vote for removal from lugnet.* 50% vote for (...) (25 years ago, 16-Aug-99, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.admin.general)

Re: i admit i was wrong —Larry Pieniazek

I support what you are trying to do in the voting but it may be more straightforward to present a series of up/down propositions and commentary that the broader ones will supercede the narrower ones if passed. (...) Larry Pieniazek larryp@novera.com (...) (25 years ago, 16-Aug-99, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.admin.general)

Re: i admit i was wrong —Todd Lehman

(...) That doesn't follow. The choices aren't mutually exclusive, are they? I thought these were separate, independently voted-upon percentages. If so, then they can't be combined mathematically as described above. Consider: If you had 95% vote for (...) (25 years ago, 17-Aug-99, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.admin.general)

Re: i admit i was wrong —Larry Pieniazek

If you post a message along the lines of "I'm trying to make the crossbow and I am having trouble getting the intersection of where the loop folds into the stock, here's what I tried to do 1. bla 2. bla 3. bla That worked for me when I intersected (...) (25 years ago, 15-Aug-99, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.admin.general)

Re: i admit i was wrong —Steve Bliss

(...) Suggestions for asking questions: Be as specific as possible. In this case, you are working on a specific detail, so you could post the part, with the problem-areas marked by comments: 0 *** The following 4 lines don't work right *** <bad line (...) (25 years ago, 15-Aug-99, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.admin.general)

Re: i admit i was wrong —Adam Howard

Thanks for all the suggestions. I believe I have solved this problem, but I will use everyone's suggestions when I need to post a question in the future. Thanks, Adam Steve Bliss <blisses@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message (...) (25 years ago, 16-Aug-99, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.admin.general)

Re: i admit i was wrong —Tim Courtney

(...) *Shift* Key Tom.... :) (Or is it ;-) ) :P (and call me stupid cause its only on my way to pressing the send button that I found the 'yanospamhoo' - where's the spamcake? Spamcaaaaake! Spamcaaaaake!!) -Tim <>< (URL) timcourtne ICQ: 23951114 (...) (25 years ago, 16-Aug-99, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)

Re: i admit i was wrong —Tim Courtney

At 10:26 PM 8/13/99 , Larry Pieniazek wrote: snip a good analogy... (...) I think too hastily would have been in February. But now is long past due. He has been asked and told and demanded time upon time to change his mannerisms, his floods of (...) (25 years ago, 14-Aug-99, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.admin.general)

Re: i admit i was wrong —Bryce McGlone

(...) First I feel that I must apoligize to the Lugnet group. I am new here and have made several smart alec comments about Jonathan. I did not appreciate the scope of the problem nor the seriousness of the Lugnet users. That said I would like to (...) (25 years ago, 14-Aug-99, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.admin.general)

Re: i admit i was wrong —Tim Courtney

(...) [...] Bryce, excellent post, thanks for sharing. I think when someone who recently joined the group sees a large problem here like the rest of us, its really time to do something about it. And I don't think any harm was done by your 'smart (...) (25 years ago, 14-Aug-99, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.admin.general)

Re: i admit i was wrong —Todd Lehman

(...) You seem to suppose that everyone who's willing to learn some craft is worth taking the time to teach that craft. Whatever happened to independent learning? --Todd (25 years ago, 13-Aug-99, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.admin.general)

Re: i admit i was wrong —Anders Isaksson

Todd Lehman skrev i meddelandet <37b47be5.155614673@...et.com>... (...) of (...) I didn't _suppose_ anything, I just wrote down a gut reaction. When a group starts throwing people out, it's the beginning of group decay. Some people will always be on (...) (25 years ago, 14-Aug-99, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.admin.general)

Re: i admit i was wrong —Tamyra Teed

Ok... I think this is getting off the beaten track some here... I don't think anyone minds Jonathan asking questions... what they do mind is the tone of his messages. Which he's been called one more than once.. I also don't think anyone would mind (...) (25 years ago, 14-Aug-99, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.admin.general)

Re: i admit i was wrong —Bram Lambrecht

(...) Correct, we're almost the exact same age. I think the difference is less than a week. (Tim, wasn't your birthday late February (mine's March 4) --Bram Bram Lambrecht / o o \ BramL@juno.com ---...---oooo-----(_...o---...--- WWW: (URL) (25 years ago, 14-Aug-99, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.admin.general)

Re: i admit i was wrong —Tim Courtney

(...) Yeah, that's right. Mine is February 27th. -Tim <>< (URL) timcourtne ICQ: 23951114 Commonwealth Edison: What do you do with OUR power? Get paid to surf the web! Visit: (URL) (25 years ago, 14-Aug-99, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.admin.general)

Re: i admit i was wrong —Ryan Dennett

(...) difference is less (...) March 4) (...) And then mine's March 14(2 years later) so we have three bdays within about two weeks time. Ryan "We're here to serve God, glorify Him, and share his light with others." Avery Johnson (25 years ago, 15-Aug-99, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.admin.general)

Re: i admit i was wrong —Tim Courtney

(...) Heh cool :) Us Lugnet youngn's are all from around the same time of year :) (...) :) -Tim <>< (URL) timcourtne ICQ: 23951114 Commonwealth Edison: What do you do with OUR power? Get paid to surf the web! Visit: (URL) (25 years ago, 15-Aug-99, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.admin.general)

Re: i admit i was wrong —Adam Howard

Tim Courtney <tim@zacktron.com> wrote in message news:4.2.0.58.199908...omm.com... (...) :) (...) Well I'm an old'un (28), but I was born on March 15th. :) Adam (25 years ago, 15-Aug-99, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.admin.general)

Re: i admit i was wrong —John Neal

Mookie wrote: <snip> (...) <snip> Reminds me of a joke.... (...) (25 years ago, 15-Aug-99, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)

Re: i admit i was wrong —Tamyra Teed

JOHN! why do you always do that.. and don't tell us the joke????? Ok.. maybe it's not always you.. though everytime someone says that.. they don't tell us the joke :( I happen to like jokes! lots of them :) so.. wanna tell me in e-mail then (...) (25 years ago, 15-Aug-99, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)

Re: i admit i was wrong —Larry Pieniazek

I think I may have started that particular annoying thing here, since I've done it a few times, some of them before JN got here. So be mad at me. You just have to post asking for the joke. IRL it's polite to say "reminds me of a joke" and wait, (...) (25 years ago, 15-Aug-99, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)

Re: i admit i was wrong —John Neal

Ok, what do you call a woman with no a$$hole? <scroll to bottom> (...) Answer: "Single" (25 years ago, 16-Aug-99, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)

That touched a new bottom (was Re: i admit i was wrong) —Tom McDonald

(...) Do all puns gravitate to this subject? -Tom McD. when replying, spamcake races start today, doo dah, doo dah... (25 years ago, 16-Aug-99, to lugnet.off-topic.pun)

Re: That touched a new bottom (was Re: i admit i was wrong) —John Neal

(...) Don't assk me. I'm not an asstronomer. -John (...) (25 years ago, 16-Aug-99, to lugnet.off-topic.pun)

Re: i admit i was wrong —Todd Lehman

(...) OK, I'll go back and answer the question (with my own *opinion*, naturally!) even though it may have been a rhetorical question. No, throwing people out the door is *not* the most pedagogic way of teaching them. Of course not. (Pedagogic (...) (25 years ago, 14-Aug-99, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.admin.general)

Re: i admit i was wrong —Tim Courtney

(...) True, but in this case throwing Jonathan out would not lead to factions. His posts have been an *entire group* annoyance and though many people have tried to help him throughout these months he has refused this help by his silence. It would be (...) (25 years ago, 14-Aug-99, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.admin.general)