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I think moving off-topic and admin was the right thing to do (can you have an alternate version of the main page, not the default, that has them as well, or is that too much code) However I question moving market.auction if market.bst wasn't moved, (...) (25 years ago, 9-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) Ditto. (...) Ditto. (...) Ditto. Julie (...) recent (...) discussions. (...) "hides" (...) lugnet.admin.general, (...) different (...) (25 years ago, 9-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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Replying to several messages at once... (...) So you want *more* people to post on admin issues? Seems like that would increase the noise, not improve the situation. (...) I'd say "pot, kettle, black" but I'm about as guilty as the next guy... (...) (...) (25 years ago, 9-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) I know what you mean about .jambalaya posts being about fun and community, but, aren't 95% of the messages just noise like "please add me to the list for this box, thanks"? Actually, no one complained about .auction and .jambalaya directly as (...) (25 years ago, 9-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) I'm thinking that makes sense. Doing it this way, the definition of what gets cut from the main system is "not lego-related". .admin is meta, and OT is out by definition of OT. OTOH, I think it would be defensible (from a practical POV) to (...) (25 years ago, 9-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) Um, ditto. :-, (...) But I'm not so sure if these will work, at least not on a scale that affects everyone. In lugnet.admin.general, Todd Lehman writes: (...) If the .off-topic.* and .admin.* messages are unpalatable for "commoners", then (...) (25 years ago, 9-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) "They" == the messages, not the "commoners". The more people, the merrier. "Commoners" is such a yucky term also. How about "newbies". Or am I just being elitist? Cheers, - jsproat (25 years ago, 9-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) Oh, I dunno, I can see .off-topic.pun getting pretty annoying, and .off-topic.test being altogether worthless...? --Todd (25 years ago, 9-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) Everyone is welcome. And BTW, it was a long-time regular who said he'd had it. (...) I think it's great too, and I would hate to see people feel less comfortable having discussions like that. But since this place is primarily for LEGO stuff, (...) (25 years ago, 9-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) Ah. I see. Hmm. Well, the .debate group doesn't really exist to "invite" debates but rather to have a place to deflect them to, because they always seem to come up in any sufficiently large online newsgroup or mailing list situation. OTOH, (...) (25 years ago, 9-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) Wait. I'm on crack. It sometimes seems like a year, but the homepage with coalesced groups has only been up since early last May, IIRC. Anyway, it had been suggested in the past, but didn't reach critical mass right away. --Todd (25 years ago, 9-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) Yah -- here's to looking for that better solution! (...) That would be awesome. Hopefully, such a system might be expanded upon in the future to arbitrarily block of ther groups; I'm not so hot on seeing messages from .belleville for example. (...) (25 years ago, 9-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) That's fair. I've been on muscle relaxants for the past two days; I'm not sure if my posts have been entirely coherent (not that they would be anyway :-). (...) The decision for the change completely blindsided me. The recent (yesterday's) (...) (25 years ago, 9-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) Ya, it was pretty quick. Kind of like a thunderclap. :) It was 10% kneejerk and 90% "Oh my god, look what has happened, as warned. X and Y and Z (people) were right all along!" (I think JoshuaD was the first person to point out the potential (...) (25 years ago, 9-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) OK, you got me there. Although it was fun to test-post those part-references, and start a test-thread of excitement. But .off-topic.clone-brands is at least tangentially lego-related (although not LEGO-related), and off-topic.fun tends to add (...) (25 years ago, 9-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) Uh-oh. Larry the Libertarian has just been "dittoed"! ;) Rob +---...---+ | Rob Farver - rfarver@rcn.com | | (URL) | | (URL) | +---...---+ (25 years ago, 10-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) And not just once, either! Glad it's not just me that feels this way. (25 years ago, 10-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) Thanks. And if it doesn't work out, banish the whole .market hierarchy, not just .auction and .jambalaya... (25 years ago, 10-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) Yes, I agree it's all about fun and sharing, and I'd love to participate this kind of things but it is fun for only for the participants. Anyway, it's not a big issue anyway..:-) Selçuk (25 years ago, 10-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) I don't consider the "noise" posts as noise at all, providing that they are on their own places. Selçuk (25 years ago, 10-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) Just a thought: Todd, I don't know how LUGNET codewise is implemented, but I assume you have an user-database somewhere (to validate posting-priveleges and to store subscribed mailinglists etc.) At our company I implemented our Intranet, it's (...) (25 years ago, 10-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) Todd, How open are you towards receiving coding help from the community? I feel that I'd be less useful in helping develop policy, but I can do quite a bit in implementation. Is LUGNET modular enough to allow many hands in the code? Cheers, - (...) (25 years ago, 10-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) Try this: -.belville at (URL) (25 years ago, 12-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) I dunno if you wanna see everything, or skip over some stuff, but here's what you could use to accomplish the above... -.off-topic +.off-topic.clone-brands +.off-topic.fun +.off-topic.geek or simply -.off-topic.debate -.off-topic.pun --Todd (...) (25 years ago, 12-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) I'm speechless. That was one quick job, hombre. Cheers, - jsproat (25 years ago, 12-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) yah, are you interested in letting some of us help? :) Dan (25 years ago, 13-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) It really isn't, no. But from time to time there might be things which are encapsulatable enough to be done independently and worked in afterwards. The FTX-to-HTML compiler, for example, is fairly encapsulated -- except for the transclusion (...) (25 years ago, 13-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) Just occurred to me earlier today - someone said it's too bad you can't view links like <set:8880> in the newsreader - then I thought, why can't we put a filter between incoming messages and the news DB to make it possible? basically move the (...) (25 years ago, 13-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) It needs to be a late-binding thing. The conversion from <set:8880> to <A HREF="/pause/search/...80></A> in the web interface happens at on-the-fly only at display-time. If you have a highly configurable newsreader (like something (...) (25 years ago, 13-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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With some snippage here and there, Todd Lehman one wrote in lugnet.admin.general: (...) That does it for me! I will no longer be bidding in Auczilla auctions if it means that I will be helping to support the use of illicit substances by another (...) (25 years ago, 13-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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(...) oh, I've no problem - just thought it'd be easier for less configurable newsreaders... I just set CTRL-ALT-P to take whatever's in the clipboard, and pop up two windows for me - text info (name, etc.) and an XV windows with the picture... the (...) (25 years ago, 13-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) XV Rules! I do like the GIMP but for some things there is absolutely no substitute for XV. The color editor and visual browser functionality is unmatched. I even wrote some of my own filters for XV for cleaning up mars images. Someone else (...) (25 years ago, 13-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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(...) <snip> (...) Probably. (Just kidding!) Your theory about Todd is, at the least, more plausible (and would be more shocking if it were true) than the hilarious theory about Anakin, Vader, Obi- Wan and Ben Kenobi that appears here: (URL) Now, if (...) (25 years ago, 13-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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(...) Not me though, its just 2am right now. (...) Well, I like the fun - but to play devil's advocate here if this were true, I've had a couple phone conversations with a 1.75" tall piece of plastic. One that has a much deeper voice than expected (...) (25 years ago, 13-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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(...) No, you are just cracking up and should seek professional help. You need to stop staying up to the crack of dawn, late niters aren't all they're cracked up to be. I'd like to say your post cracked ME up, but frankly, it wasn't all that (...) (25 years ago, 13-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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(...) Hmm. Didn't take. Guess it's a member-only thing. I should go fill out that monster form. Someday. Steve (25 years ago, 13-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) ?? Worked for me, and I'm not logged in, so it doesn't know I'm a member. James (URL) getting paid for this --> alladvantage.com Sign up via me, the reference $$ go to fund Lugnet. (25 years ago, 13-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) Hmm, no, it's not a member-only thing. All it does is sets a cookie. Perchance have you disabled cookies in your browser? --Todd (25 years ago, 13-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) When I try to put through a filter of: +lugnet nothing takes -- the updated filter page shows that my current settings are the default settings: -.off-topic -.admin But when I put in: -.xxx +lugnet the filter is set correctly. Is there (...) (25 years ago, 13-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) Hmm, thanks for the data. I can only think of one thing that's consistent with that data. I have a hypothesis: Your web browser has a bug, and it is tossing (ignoring) empty-string cookies rather than storing and reporting back the empty (...) (25 years ago, 13-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) Yep, I'm using MSIE5. (...) Now the page seems to work correctly. I put in "+lugnet" for the filter, and it came back saying my current filter is "<I>(none)</I>". Steve (25 years ago, 14-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) Excellent! --Todd (25 years ago, 14-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) Just thought of something... One thing missing which would be 100% encapsulatable would be a filter to fix up icky encodings like "quoted-printable" (which cause stuff like =F6 and =20 to appear all over the place) into regular non-encoded (...) (25 years ago, 16-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) Just came across this article in my bookmarks. Everything work out OK with the filter? (It's not a member-only thing.) (...) Some people leave it 90% blank and come back to it later after they're all signed up. When you sign in, there's a (...) (24 years ago, 23-Jun-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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In lugnet.admin.general, Todd Lehman wrote: [snipped quote from old message about a bug in the web interface's message-filter] (...) Yep, we got it worked out. (...) Ah. OK. Still need to sign up. Steve (24 years ago, 23-Jun-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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