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Re: Interesting Castle on Ebay
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lugnet.castle
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Thu, 6 Jan 2000 04:45:24 GMT
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In lugnet.castle, Kevin Salm writes:
> Reference: http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=227975305
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> I don't think the seller can be trusted here. I don't care what he types in
> an email, he likely is not truthful.
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> Here is what I believe the situation is:
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> - All of the pieces are genuine Lego elements
> - The box is a genuine Lego box
> - The box is likely the box from Lego 6074 with a totally new image glued to
> the front and inside cover. I am looking at the boxes for 6073 and 7074
> right now and even the inside cover picture is different. However, I would
> bet that the rest of the box has been unchanged unless this seller really
> doesn't want anyone to know it was once a Lego box.
> - I do think that if I am correct, the job of putting new images on the box
> has been done very precisely as the inside cover looks nearly perfect as far
> as background color and any paper edges showing.
> - Notice that the box divider looks just like the 6073 or 6074 box except
> that the printed words USE THIS BOX FOR STORAGE is not present. I detect a
> slight yellow color variation so I think that this has been covered up
> (unless it was never on non-US Lego boxes).
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> - The pieces themselves may have come from several Lego sets, mostly 6074.
> This would account for incorrect minifigs, incorrect shields, one extra
> horse, No Yellow Tudor wall section, No Yellow half-arches, No Black extreme
> slope corners or 4-sided pyramid piece.
> - The printing on the wall segments may have been removed or the pieces have
> been replaced with plain Gray wall sections from other sets.
> - The most valuable pieces from set 6074 are not present in this auction
> offering. Likely harvested out; other pieces added to compensate and make a
> more "complete" castle.
I agree with your points. The set is likely to be fake, and it prolly is (I
don't want to accuse anybody, but the facts are not on the seller's side here,
unless he/she would like to come out and say something we haven't noticed...
not likely either)
> - From what I see, someone went to a lot of trouble to make us believe that
> Dalu is actual Lego and has their own offerings of sets. The Logo burns me
> up. The red Dalu logo is too fuzzy--plus everything everyone else has said
> about touching the flag, etc. I don't have old-enough non-US Lego Castle
> set boxes to compare it to, but it does not seem to measure up to Lego
> standards. The most striking omission might be piece count if that was
> present on the Lego 6074 Euro boxes.
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> - I do not know what printed Arabic text looks like, but I think that if
> Lego were to translate into another language, they would use characters from
> that language. This fake box was done with the English alphabet only--no
> special characters at all. Another sticky point.
I agree with that. I think I mentioned that earlier, also Israeli sets for a
fact have the original lego logo and I don't think TLC would've changed it for
anything.
> - Authenticating the name Dalu has not turned up any toy or plastics
> manufacturers.
> So far this is what I have found:
> 1. Canadian Trademark Database refers me to info on importing Chinese
> industrial goods such as bathroom fixtures
> 2. Shanghai Dalu Friendship International Hotel Equipment and Facilities
> Trading Center
> 3. search of LOCIS.LOC.GOV via telnet (Library of Congress) gives no matches
> to any searches
> 4. US Patent & Trademark Office searches also have no matches for Dalu or
> Daluland
> 5. No matches in UK Patent & Trademark Office
> 6. Additional online searches futile.
>
> Anyway, that is my view on this. Overall, I believe that the pieces are
> Lego but that it does not correctly represent any specific Lego set. Dalu
> and Daluland are fictitious and cooked up by the seller.
>
> _______________________________________________________
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> Kevin Salm
> ....The biggest fan of the Gray Lego brick....
> _______________________________________________________
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> > Tom Reed wrote in message ...
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> > For all of you who are speculating about the castle set on ebay, I think I
> have the answer! I emailed >the guy who is auctioning it off and at first
> he told me that "dalu" is Arabian for "lego"!
Sorry, but this is totally unreasonable. I'm not 100% sure here, I only
learned arabic for two years (1) but the word "lego" I believe is a play-off
of "play well" in Danish (2). It has no literate meaning so how the heck could
it be translated?!?!
I've learned arabic for two years (1) and never heard of the word "Dalu".
If he said that to you, he's/she's moved from being maybe unknowing or
unrealizing this is a fake (let's give the guy(gal?) the benefit of the doubt)
to lying to you. I might be jumpin' to conclusions here but this is really too
much.
> Since he didn't >say anymore,
> I emailed him again and asked that he check the bricks and let me know if
> they had >lego stamped on them. He wrote back and said they didn't! He
> said that they didn't have anything on >them! Therefore, I think we can
> safely say that these are not true lego pieces! Dalu is obviously
> > a clone of some type! I'm just surprised that we haven't heard of it
> > before.
I wouldn't be so sure that it's a clone - the seller could've been fooling you
just as easily as he's (she's?) fooled someone into paying $85 for a fake lego
set. (that's the current price.)
-Shiri
(1) more than the most here probably but still not too much :-)
(2) I read about this a long time ago in lego.com but I'm pretty sure this is
right.
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