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    Official LEGO Color Chart —Dan Boger
   Thanks to Jake and TLC, we just posted an official LEGO color chart, with RGB, CMYK, and Pantone colors, and a danglish name! Take a look: (URL) will be working in the next few weeks with LDraw to associate each of these colors with our current (...) (21 years ago, 30-Aug-03, to lugnet.announce, lugnet.cad, lugnet.db.brictionary, lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.ray) !! 
   
        Re: Official LEGO Color Chart —Gary Thomas
     (...) Awesome! Thanks so much! - Gary (21 years ago, 30-Aug-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
   
        Re: Official LEGO Color Chart —Mike Thorn
     Oh my goodness! Are there really that many colors of LEGO?! Great to see some TLC collaboration. Something I wish there was a lot more of. Great work, keep it up!! :-) ~Mike (...) (21 years ago, 30-Aug-03, to lugnet.cad.dev) ! 
   
        Re: Official LEGO Color Chart —Ray Sanders
     (...) Fantastic ! Is that believed to be complete, even inclusive of the odd scala, belville and HP colors ? Ray (21 years ago, 30-Aug-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
    
         Re: Official LEGO Color Chart —Dan Boger
     (...) We can't be sure - we've asked that someone look into it for us. Once we find out, we'll let you know :) Dan (21 years ago, 30-Aug-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
    
         Re: Official LEGO Color Chart —Ray Sanders
      (...) After staring at this list for a while, I think it will be a sea change to use some of these names. For example: color #25 is called 'Earth Orange'. To my eye, this looks much darker than the color of a Kaadu (which we have called earth (...) (21 years ago, 30-Aug-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
     
          Re: Official LEGO Color Chart —Dan Boger
       (...) The way I see it, we probably will never switch to calling colors by their LEGO names - some, like 'Lig. Yellowich Orange' just don't work for me :) It would be nice to correlate the names we use to the entries in the table. For that matter, (...) (21 years ago, 30-Aug-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
      
           Re: Official LEGO Color Chart —Ray Sanders
        (...) With respect to the RGB and the CMYK numbers... I did a bit of quick reading about the two color specification models. If I understood it correctly, RGB is more oriented towards monitor displays, while CMYK (subtractive) is intended to specify (...) (21 years ago, 30-Aug-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
       
            Re: Official LEGO Color Chart —Jennifer L. Boger
        (...) Ray- I asked about this and got a sort of vague responce: The CMYK is given to tell people what the CMYK value is. If you want to print with it because it is better for printing, then use that. The values listed are for color the actual (...) (21 years ago, 30-Aug-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
       
            Re: Official LEGO Color Chart —David Laswell
         (...) It should be, since most modern printers use cyan, magenta, and yellow ink for color printing (I'm guessing "K" is for "blacK"?). In working with light, the primaries are red, blue, and green, and the secondaries are cyan, magenta, and _amber_ (...) (21 years ago, 30-Aug-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
        
             Re: Official LEGO Color Chart —Tim David
         (I'm guessing "K" is for "blacK"?). "K" stands for Key, but why black is called key I don't know, you'd have to ask a printer (Person not a machine!) Tim (21 years ago, 2-Sep-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
       
            Re: Official LEGO Color Chart —Derek Raycraft
        (...) The way to test this is to do the translation between CMYK and RGB. If the numbers in the table convert more or less exactly, then we know it's just a simple translation. If they don't match, then it's likely the CMYK values have been ajusted (...) (21 years ago, 2-Sep-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
      
           Re: Official LEGO Color Chart —David Laswell
       (...) What's wrong with it? "Lig." is an abbreviation for "light" (not the one we're used to, but...), "yellowich" is only one letter different from "yellowish"...ah, you must object to their use of the strange foreign word "orange", right? ;P (21 years ago, 30-Aug-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
      
           Re: Official LEGO Color Chart —David Laswell
       (...) On further comparison, "Lig. Yellowich Orange" is the only color that uses the spelling "yellowich", while every other use is spelled "yellowish". I propose that the C-spelling is a typo and should be corrected. (21 years ago, 30-Aug-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
      
           Re: Official LEGO Color Chart —Jennifer L. Boger
       (...) I've no doubt that it's a typo, but that's what they gave us, we didn't want to touch it just yet :) Jennifer (21 years ago, 30-Aug-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
     
          Re: Official LEGO Color Chart —David Laswell
      (...) That's because the official Earth Orange color _is_ darker than the Kaadu. The Kakama mask and feet used on Huki from the Bionicle line (McD's Matoran/Tohunga set from September 01) are the color officially termed Earth Orange (as was listed (...) (21 years ago, 30-Aug-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
     
          Re: Official LEGO Color Chart —David Laswell
      (...) Whoops. I got my "oranges" mixed up there. The official Earth Orange was actually identified as what we know as brown (tree pieces, Pohatu, wagon wheels). The official Kanohi checklist used to identify it as this color, but some of the more (...) (21 years ago, 31-Aug-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
    
         Re: Official LEGO Color Chart —Mark Papenfuss
      (...) No, the list is not complete - at BW03 Bill (one of the MasterBuilders) brought out his color list and let us see it. He even had a color copy of it he handed out to a few of us. If I recall correctly these are the colors they (the (...) (21 years ago, 30-Aug-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
     
          Re: Official LEGO Color Chart —Ray Sanders
       (...) your photo... The TLC/peeron list has a range of colors above 200 that are not on the tile swatches. Conversely, the tile swatches are present for the following numbers that are not on the list: 20, 109, 114, 117, 129, 132, 144 and 156. The (...) (21 years ago, 31-Aug-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
      
           Re: Official LEGO Color Chart —Tim David
       snip (...) Possibly the last three in the TLC list are glitter colours, 176 178 and 179, the 'flip-flop' colours? I'm not certain I think that in paint terms at least this means colours that change depending on viewing angle Tim (21 years ago, 2-Sep-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
     
          Re: Official LEGO Color Chart —Todd Lehman
       (...) I asked him if he had cleared it (his distributing it and/or the public disclosure of it online) with LEGO IP attorneys and he indicated no. --Todd (21 years ago, 31-Aug-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
      
           Re: Official LEGO Color Chart —Mark Papenfuss
       (...) Ah. All I recall was he wanted to give it to somebody who could get it to the masses. But since a list was made public by Lego I think it would be safe to put out the list that you have, if you still have it... Do you still have it? Mark P (...) (21 years ago, 9-Sep-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
     
          Re: Official LEGO Color Chart —Ray Sanders
      (...) Mark, Is Maersk Blue included in the picture you have above ? If so, which number is it ? Ray (21 years ago, 8-Sep-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
     
          Re: Official LEGO Color Chart —Mark Papenfuss
      (...) Not that I recall or can see from the picture. He said that was a list of the 2003 colors that they could order more of, and he said earlier that Maersk was no longer open for ordering for them. Hope that helps... Mark P (URL) (21 years ago, 9-Sep-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
    
         Re: Official LEGO Color Chart —Ray Sanders
     (...) Another thought WRT the completeness of this list... I suspect that the colors listed here are the ABS colors and do not take into account the various non-ABS colors being used in some of the Bionicle Krana masks. Those masks are using a (...) (21 years ago, 17-Sep-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
   
        Re: Official LEGO Color Chart —Stefan Garcia
     Wow...that's a lot o' colors... Neat! -Stefan- (21 years ago, 30-Aug-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
   
        Re: Official LEGO Color Chart —David Laswell
     (...) Eesh. As neat as that is to see, the color samples for a lot of them (especially the red/purple range) look like various shades of puce on my monitor, and I'm not used to having problems in that color range. It took me about five minutes to (...) (21 years ago, 30-Aug-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
    
         Re: Official LEGO Color Chart —Jennifer L. Boger
     Quoting Purple Dave <purpledave@maskofdestiny.com>: (...) That's the plan. It's very difficult to always match up colors when not everyone has every color to compare it to. One person may have a lot (or all of them) but another may only have a few. (...) (21 years ago, 30-Aug-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
   
        Re: Official LEGO Color Chart —Jeff Szklennik
     (...) cool! just for fun, i noticed that Lego # 1, "white" is actually pantone code "CoolGrey 1 C" and has RGB of 242/243/242, not 255/255/255 of 'true computer white' in paint programs; probably deals with the print or plastic 'milkiness' of the (...) (21 years ago, 31-Aug-03, to lugnet.cad.dev, FTX)
   
        Re: Official LEGO Color Chart —David Laswell
     (...) Here's my meager contribution to the cause: Transparent colors: 40 Transparent Pretty easy, it's colorless and you can see through it. 41 Tr. Red Spybotics Snaptrax, Darth Vader's lightsaber blade, Blacktron, etc. (dark blood red) 42 Tr. Lg (...) (21 years ago, 31-Aug-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
    
         Re: Official LEGO Color Chart —Jonathan Wilson
      ok, what is "Neon orange" and how does it differ from "Tr. Flu. Reddish orange"? (21 years ago, 31-Aug-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
     
          Re: Official LEGO Color Chart —David Laswell
      (...) My guess is that "Neon Orange" is an opaque color, since it does not include the "Tr." qualifier. I'd also guess that it does not actually glow under blacklight, as it is listed as "Neon" instead of "Flourescent" (i.e. it's probably just a (...) (21 years ago, 31-Aug-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
    
         Re: Official LEGO Color Chart —Ray Sanders
     In lugnet.cad.dev, David Laswell wrote: I belive I saw these two come across in 8569 mask packs. (...) "trans-peach" is what I called this one. (...) "trans-salmon" BL didn't have names for these colors, so I had to ad-lib. Ray (21 years ago, 31-Aug-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
    
         Re: Official LEGO Color Chart —David Laswell
     (...) 8525 (just the eyes) and 8530 (both eyes and the misprint Kaukau), but not 8569. That was just basic Krana and the gold/silver colored Toa Kanohi. (...) They both glow very brightly under blacklight, which seems to match up perfectly with the (...) (21 years ago, 31-Aug-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
   
        Re: Official LEGO Color Chart —Jonathan Wilson
     My gusses/matches: 1.white 2.light grey (the standard grey as seen in 1000s of places) 23.blue (the standard blue) 24.yellow (the standard yellow) 26.black 27.dark grey (as in pirate cannon, minifig weapons, 3/4 technic pins and so on) 28.green (as (...) (21 years ago, 31-Aug-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
    
         Re: Official LEGO Color Chart —David Laswell
     (...) Huh. Missed that one, but it makes sense, since phosporescence is basically the ability to glow without electrical input. (...) I basically went through all 14 Tr. colors and found legitimate matches for all of them, but I don't remember a (...) (21 years ago, 31-Aug-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
    
         Re: Official LEGO Color Chart —Jonathan Wilson
     (...) y guess is that I just think it looks "pink" to me :) (21 years ago, 1-Sep-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
   
        Re: Official LEGO Color Chart —Ronald Vallenduuk
     Brilliant! 111 colors! Guess I'm not complete just yet.... Duq "Dan Boger" <dan@peeron.com> wrote in message news:HKG3r3.1LHJ@lugnet.com... (...) RGB, (...) these (...) (21 years ago, 31-Aug-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
    
         Re: Official LEGO Color Chart —Ray Sanders
     (...) Yeah... and prior to today, my composite list (from 3 other lists: ldraw, peeron & BL) only had 79 entries. So it looks like the color list just grew by ~40%. Now we just need to align this against the other lists. Ray (21 years ago, 31-Aug-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
   
        Re: Official LEGO Color Chart —Bob Kojima
     (...) I have just finished a program that can be used to map color names and numbers used between Peeron, Bricklink, LDraw, and Lego. It is called Brick Colors and can be downloaded at (URL) made this program to help me make the colors.txt map file (...) (21 years ago, 3-Sep-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)  
    
         colours.txt -> LDraw-org Official Part Updates! —Tore Eriksson
     (...) Sorry, I just can't find it. Could you give me a direct link? Thanks, /Tore (btw, the file colours.txt is very close to what I have in mind, only that what I think of should not be limited to 80 colours, it should be stored in the LDraw (...) (20 years ago, 11-Jun-04, to lugnet.cad.dev)
    
         Re: colours.txt -> LDraw-org Official Part Updates! —Orion Pobursky
     (...) This is what the ldconfig.ldr file is. Look for it the LDraw base dir. -Orion (20 years ago, 11-Jun-04, to lugnet.cad.dev)
    
         Questions On ldconfig.ldr (Was: colours.txt -> LDraw-org Official Part Updates!) —Tore Eriksson
     (...) Oh boy, I've never noticed that one! Must be because of its misleading name and extension. So, what does the A, DR, DG, DB, DA columns stand for? (A is always = 255, so one can wonder what good it does.) It should benifit from some more (...) (20 years ago, 11-Jun-04, to lugnet.cad.dev)
    
         Re: Questions On ldconfig.ldr (Was: colours.txt -> LDraw-org Official Part Updates!) —Orion Pobursky
      (...) Well the spec is changing so these commands will go away. We (the LSC) are working to get the spec for the color definitions (the !COLOR Meta coomand) finalize by the next parts release. (...) LDView currently uses this file and once we (...) (20 years ago, 11-Jun-04, to lugnet.cad.dev)
    
         Re: Questions On ldconfig.ldr (Was: colours.txt -> LDraw-org Official Part Updates!) —Steve Bliss
     (...) A = alpha (transparency) DR, DG, DB, DA = dithered RGB,A. If RGB = D(RGB), then the color is solid. If DA=0, the color is transparent. Otherwise, the color is dithered and/or translucent. (...) Actually, that kind of information should be set (...) (20 years ago, 16-Jun-04, to lugnet.cad.dev)
    
         Re: Questions On ldconfig.ldr (Was: colours.txt -> LDraw-org Official Part Updates!) —Tore Eriksson
     (...) Yes, that's exactly what I'm suggesting. And the database should be text-based, space-delimited, available offline to all softwares that may need the info - and udpated regulary. In other words: in the new, improved ldconfig.ldr! :) /Tore (20 years ago, 16-Jun-04, to lugnet.cad.dev)
    
         Re: LDraw color conversions —Clark Stephens
     (...) Tore, Is this the kind of output you are looking for? (URL) link will probably wrap) That's just some of the info from my Color Tree pages: (URL) me know what you need, or how you need it presented. I'd be glad to help in any way I can. HTH, (...) (20 years ago, 16-Jun-04, to lugnet.cad.dev)
   
        Re: Official LEGO Color Chart —Rob Doucette
     (...) Is it possible that these colors are used for decorative printing of elements and not exclusively used to identify molded ABS? -Rob. (21 years ago, 8-Sep-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
   
        Re: Official LEGO Color Chart —Richard Finegold
   (...) I don't have a tool or adequate knowledge for this, but I'm guessing someone else here does. Recently, TLC has been (URL) PDFs> to Brickshelf that include color information. Perhaps (URL) some> of the (URL) PDFs> have resources ("Colorspace"?) (...) (21 years ago, 10-Sep-03, to lugnet.cad.dev, FTX)
 

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