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| I've been on and off thinking about containers (for ships, trucks, and trains). One of the things I'm wondering is if all the LEGO sets which have containers use the same dimensions? The other thing I'm wondering is if I should set my own standards (...) (24 years ago, 12-Mar-00, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.build)
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| (...) There is a standard LEGO Container size which lorries, trucks and the 1991 sea ports all used - 4x8 in plan. The Maersk and Color Line trucks have different size containers. Set 1651 the old Maersk truck: (URL) 6 wide containers I think they (...) (24 years ago, 12-Mar-00, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.build)
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| Oh man, why didn't TLG do all their containers the same as 1651?? The Ccolor Line and Maersk newer promo sets use 4x12 containers. They're plug compatible, at least sort of. I use a 2x2 tile every 4 studs so a 4x8 has 2 and a 4x12 has 3. Most of the (...) (24 years ago, 13-Mar-00, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.build)
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| Carbon 60 wrote in message ... (...) have (...) sea (...) different (...) fill (...) Oh, cool. There's the 1x6x5 window in another color - grey (or is it white)! With shutters to boot. Frank (24 years ago, 13-Mar-00, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.build)
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| I've been building my trailers 6x28 so when I start working on some containers, I am going to use the same size. Never seen the 1651, now that is cool. (...) (24 years ago, 13-Mar-00, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.build)
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| (...) With some creative engineering, you should probably be able to fit create just a 2x2 area, but you might have to sacrifice some interior space... --Bram Bram Lambrecht / o o \ BramL@juno.com ---...---oooo-----(_...o---...--- WWW: (URL) (24 years ago, 13-Mar-00, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.build)
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| (...) Yea, with a wide enough area, one could use the 2x2/2x2 brackets. It would need a depth of 4 for each side though (meaning a container at least 8 wide). There might also be ways to use the 1x1 brick with studs on all 4 sides. Unfortuantely, to (...) (24 years ago, 13-Mar-00, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.build)
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| I've had the luck of being allowed access to the Local Harbors here thru a few nice Steveadores (Wish I had their jobs thought. They pay good money.) and I've learned that Containers come in all shapes and sizes. I have nearly 200+ Reference Photos (...) (24 years ago, 13-Mar-00, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.build)
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| Larry, I thought you were a six wide truck guy? I guess I was thinking of someone else. I have been wondering the same thing; should I make containers 4 wide or six wide. 4 wide means I am ok with the old style containers and I can continue using (...) (24 years ago, 13-Mar-00, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.build)
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| (...) Thin walls. Here's my solution, only problem being it requires a 1x2 orange thin wall. I don't think they exist (yet). I just built this on a 4x4 plate to try it out, hopefully you can follow along. On your black 4x4 plate at the center edge, (...) (24 years ago, 13-Mar-00, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.build)
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| (...) I think I see one thing which doesn't meet my criteria, the tile will not be flush with the surface of the wall, it will stick out 1/2 plate thickness. My solution leaves it flush with the surface of the wall. I don't mind not having an (...) (24 years ago, 13-Mar-00, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.build)
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| I made some 6 wide trailers way back when I was first playing with train LEGO. But since then I have been mostly 4 wide. Not because it's right. It isn't. IRL trailers and boxcars are almost exactly the same width, (10' 6" I think) and 6 wide (...) (24 years ago, 13-Mar-00, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.build)
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| IRL name and logo plates are often welded onto the rib bulges so "appear" to stick out. However they don't actually do so due to clearance reasons. If you're not going to be stacking your sebulba container next to other containers and not going to (...) (24 years ago, 13-Mar-00, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.build)
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| (...) If you mean an articulated doublestack... There are at least three examples extant. PNLTC members have one, I have one, and I forget who else. Mine is on my "containers" page. Like you I'm an ex MR and container crazy, it's one of my favorite (...) (24 years ago, 13-Mar-00, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.build)
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| (...) Wrong! :) :) Check this out. I just whipped this up as a solution to your problem. As far as I can tell, it matches all criteria mechanically. The only thing I'm not sure of is whether or not the 1x2x2 panels come in orange... (...) (the ">" (...) (24 years ago, 13-Mar-00, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.build)
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| (...) Well there's nothing like saying "can't be done" to shake out the solution... (...) Ooh, naughty... :-) Could you generate a JPG or two, or just describe it? (I don't have a way to look at .DATs at work). Hmm, I just tried to look at all the (...) (24 years ago, 13-Mar-00, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.build)
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| (...) I may end up doing that, though I would like for the containers to be able to be stacked beside each other. Of course I haven't seen a solution yet which I have all the necessary orange parts, my solution so far comes the closest (since I (...) (24 years ago, 13-Mar-00, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.build)
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| (...) I just emailed you a GIF instructions sheet, but to your mindspring account... should I email it to your work account? (...) Nope :) It's what I like to call an IES* There is no actual piece that holds the tile at 90 degrees... it's the (...) (24 years ago, 13-Mar-00, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.build)
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| (...) I have a feeling I'm going to go with 6 wide. TLC is making more and more 6 wide trucks (now if only they'd make some truck wheels suited for double wheel arrangements other than the 2x2 hubs - technic or standard). I only have a few of those (...) (24 years ago, 13-Mar-00, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.build)
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| (...) Mindspring is just fine (I can access it from work). (...) Ah, now I see. I may use that for a few containers which open. That solution won't work for the Selbulba tile though since the thin walls aren't split in color, and it doesn't manage (...) (24 years ago, 13-Mar-00, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.build)
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| (...) As the automatic doors on the Starship Heart of Gold would say, "Glad to be of service!" :) --Karim (24 years ago, 13-Mar-00, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.build)
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| (...) stayed with the 6-wide style?!? --Bram (24 years ago, 13-Mar-00, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.build)
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| (...) I think 6-wide makes much more impressive trucks. You can always make doors out of plates, using a few <part:2540 1x2 plates w/ handle> and <part:4085 plate 1x1 w/ vert. clip> to create hinges. If you're feeling really ambitious, go (...) (24 years ago, 13-Mar-00, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.build)
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| Frank catches me in an apparent error... (...) 2148 is what I typed. Trust me. Nefarious forces must have incremented it by two at some point. :-) (24 years ago, 13-Mar-00, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.build)
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| (...) Which you are, of course, famous for. When does karimnassar.com go public? (But don't ask me to get on task on my own site :/ ) --Bram Bram Lambrecht / o o \ BramL@juno.com ---...---oooo-----(_...o---...--- WWW: (URL) (24 years ago, 13-Mar-00, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.build)
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| (...) Augh, that sounds familiar, but I can't place it. What's it from? --Bram Bram Lambrecht / o o \ BramL@juno.com ---...---oooo-----(_...o---...--- WWW: (URL) (24 years ago, 13-Mar-00, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.build)
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| (...) It's from _The Hitchiker's Guide to the Galaxy_... The Cybernetic systems of the starship Heart of Gold were developed with the new "GPP" system (Genuine People Personalities). The doors have a desire to open for you and it is their pleassure (...) (24 years ago, 13-Mar-00, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.build)
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| (...) Hehehe, now *that* would be fascinating... It does however go online April 1st. (Ackkk! I know, I know! but I have to wait for the machine it will be on to be configured!) I am considering going ahead and launching Pallas Spaceworks early, on (...) (24 years ago, 13-Mar-00, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.build)
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| By chance, was the starting point of the "known" Lego Double-Stacks? I'm inclined to believe that the starting point for this is 4549 Road 'N Rail Hauler. I found a set with the viechles and the figures gone, and all that's left is 1 of the small (...) (24 years ago, 14-Mar-00, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.build)
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| Karim wrote in message ... (...) account... (...) holds (...) pieces (...) Well, I just (well several hours ago) tried this out. The geometry doesn't quite work out. To fill in those who haven't seen the picture, the key is that staggered, opposing (...) (24 years ago, 14-Mar-00, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.build)
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| Bram Lambrecht wrote in message ... (...) I'd known about the window for quite some time. Many classic space sets use them in blue (with trans yellow glass). I did wonder why it looked like it had shutter tabs, until a few weeks ago when I opened a (...) (24 years ago, 14-Mar-00, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.build)
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| (...) This sentence didn't parse for me. But I surmise that I agree. 4549 and other 4 wide containers set the standard that I work from (...) It's just mad money, maybe a grand or two... so I don't have to time the bottom exactly. So who wants to (...) (24 years ago, 14-Mar-00, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.build)
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| Par-wha? (...) (24 years ago, 14-Mar-00, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.build)
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| Has anybody recommend that this guy should go out, buy some decal paper or sticker paper, make the design on the comp, print it out, and paste it on? Last I saw, decal paper was about a dollar per sheet. Just a suggestion...nothing personal or (...) (24 years ago, 14-Mar-00, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.build)
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| Kela Akira Kitkowski wrote in message ... (...) Because it isn't a "pure" solution, and doesn't give us the opportunity to try and find an elegant solution. Besides, sticker paper wouldn't be flush either (of course if you get right down to it, (...) (24 years ago, 14-Mar-00, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.build, lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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| (...) Oooh, Drat! I forgot about the "lego" logos extruded on the tops of the studs... Oh well, just goes to show the dangers of designing lego models in your head... :) BTW, I just tried it myself, and it does work... almost... the deflection of (...) (24 years ago, 14-Mar-00, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.build)
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| (...) It's more than just the letters, the actual stud is ever so slightly taller. When I gently slid a plate into a chanel made by reversing two thin walls, the top of the stud caught the edge of the wall. The two stud wide channel with 3 plates + (...) (24 years ago, 14-Mar-00, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.build)
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| (...) Hmmm, we may be running into the limit of lego tolerances here. When I tried the assembly, it was clearly just the letters on top of the studs that kept it from working perfectly. In fact, it does actually hold together, and works just as I (...) (24 years ago, 14-Mar-00, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.build)
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| You could always "accidentally" stick a MegaBlock plate back there. It would be obscured from view and I don't think they have markings on the studs, but maybe they do. (I don't use MB, so I wouldn't know). I know Tyco had blank studs, but their (...) (24 years ago, 14-Mar-00, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.build)
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| (...) It's a great idea. If you're impure. :-) Purists (and I'm mostly in this camp) like to see what they can do without using non LEGO things. But there's nothing wrong with your suggestion. (24 years ago, 14-Mar-00, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.build)
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| (...) Parse. See: (URL) note the v.intr. definition. "did not parse" == "I didn't understand what you were saying" either because you made a grammatical or transcription error that interfered with deriving meaning, or because your sentence was too (...) (24 years ago, 14-Mar-00, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.build)
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