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  Re: Santa Fe Super Chief Train Engine Registry
 
(...) Hey Brian! The amount of info available on this new Santa Fe(tm) Super Chief(tm) set can be a bit overwhelming, everything you asked has been answered already if you read all the threads. But it's a bit much! The sequence number appears on a (...) (23 years ago, 23-Feb-02, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: Santa Fe Super Chief Train Engine Registry
 
I'm confused about a couple of things; please forgive my obtuseness. ;-) (1) What are these 'sequence numbers?' Are the people who buy these Santa Fe engines making them up, or do they appear somewhere on the box or on the model itself? (2) The list (...) (23 years ago, 23-Feb-02, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: No. A0001 has been registred (Re: Santa Fe Super Chief Train Engine Registry)
 
"James J. Trobaugh" <james@ngltc.org> wrote in message news:GryMDr.8qG@lugnet.com... (...) now (...) about (...) [ ... snipped ... ] Is this why I can't access the registry? I received 1522, 1527, and 1636 today. I built 1636 - a very enjoyable (...) (23 years ago, 23-Feb-02, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: So much for "Backordered until March 29"...
 
(...) I ordered two Super Chiefs Tuesday via phone (along with a Pizza-to-Go), and the phone rep said that she didn't have a ship date listed for the Super Chiefs. I received the Pizza set yesterday (with a misprinted sign for the delivery van, (...) (23 years ago, 23-Feb-02, to lugnet.trains)
 
  I Joined the Navy...
 
To see the world...what did I see? I saw the Sea... I've got my posting msg finally, am going to HMCS Protecteur. For information purposes, I am going to be leaving here mid may for 7-9 months. My computer access will be strictly limited for that (...) (23 years ago, 23-Feb-02, to lugnet.loc.ca.bc, lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: 10020 Super Chief has wrong color handrails
 
ah, thanks so much Mike. I found the replacement bag before the box went in the trash. (...) (23 years ago, 23-Feb-02, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: 10020 Super Chief has wrong color handrails
 
"Tom Cook" <tomjcook@directvinternet.com> wrote in message news:Grynqr.C2K@lugnet.com... (...) situation? I had a replacement part packs included with mine. In it are four light grey bars and four red bars with stop. They came in a small clear (...) (23 years ago, 23-Feb-02, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: So much for "Backordered until March 29"...
 
"Alan Demlow" <demlow@lightlink.com> wrote in message news:Pine.SUN.4.33.0...ink.com... (...) Mine arrived today so they have made it as far as North Carolina. Mine were never reported as back ordered though. I have only opened one of the three so (...) (23 years ago, 23-Feb-02, to lugnet.trains)
 
  10020 Super Chief has wrong color handrails
 
My copy of 10020 came with all dark gray handrails, whereas the box and instructions indicate _gray_ "bars 4L Light Sabre Blade" (578) and _red_ "bars 6.6L with stop" (4095) for the handrails. Is this a universal situation? (23 years ago, 23-Feb-02, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: No. A0001 has been registred (Re: Santa Fe Super Chief Train Engine Registry)
 
It's there, maybe you just need to do a refresh...well it doesn't matter now any's since my free IIS provider says we've exceeded the limit. Guess I'll have to go back and do the updates manually in a batch process..sorry about that. jt (...) (23 years ago, 23-Feb-02, to lugnet.trains)
 
  So much for "Backordered until March 29"...
 
I got home today and there was a UPS note on my door. They had tried to deliver a package from LDMI (Lego Direct Marketing, Inc.) and I wasn't home. That could be nothing other than the 3 Super Chiefs I ordered Monday morning from the website, at (...) (23 years ago, 22-Feb-02, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: 10020 limited to 10000 sets or not?
 
(...) LEGO(r) model of it some time back? For 50 points, who can give the URL(s) to the builder's pics??? (23 years ago, 22-Feb-02, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: No. A0001 has been registred (Re: Santa Fe Super Chief Train Engine Registry)
 
(...) Sorry, there is still no </FRAME> tag: </BODY> </HTML> <HTML> <HEAD> <TITLE>LEGO® Santa Fe Super Chief Train Engine Registry</TITLE> </HEAD> <FRAMESET rows="100%,*" FRAMESPACING=0 FRAMEBORDER=0 BORDER=0> <FRAME SRC="(URL) NAME=MAIN (...) (23 years ago, 22-Feb-02, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: No. A0001 has been registred (Re: Santa Fe Super Chief Train Engine Registry)
 
(...) Hm, I don't know about Netscape, but it still just plain doesn't load in IE 5.5 on Win2000- on either address. It may be a firewall problem on my end, though. When I run it through another server to fetch it, it works fine. Unfortunately, (...) (23 years ago, 22-Feb-02, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: No. A0001 has been registred (Re: Santa Fe Super Chief Train Engine Registry)
 
I still get a blank page instead of the registry. Netscape 4.76 / MacOS 8.6. Ray (...) (23 years ago, 22-Feb-02, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: 10020 limited to 10000 sets or not?
 
Larry Pieniazek wrote in message ... (...) Yep, you got it. Class is A4, a Pacific (4-6-2) wheel arrangement, Mallard was the engine which took the world steam speed record of 126 mph in in 1938 IIRC. Designed by Sir Nigel Gresley for the LNER. Here (...) (23 years ago, 22-Feb-02, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: No. A0001 has been registred (Re: Santa Fe Super Chief Train Engine Registry)
 
Looks like it's working fine now, JT. Thanks and hope you feel better soon! -John (...) (23 years ago, 22-Feb-02, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: No. A0001 has been registred (Re: Santa Fe Super Chief Train Engine Registry)
 
Ok I add the missing </FRAME> tag, let me know if it works now with Netscape. Thanks, jt (...) (23 years ago, 22-Feb-02, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: No. A0001 has been registred (Re: Santa Fe Super Chief Train Engine Registry)
 
Thanks Bill for pointing that out, I'll try and update it this evening. I've come down with the flu (or more like my son gave me the flu) so I'm a little slow at working on it this week. jt (...) (23 years ago, 22-Feb-02, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: No. A0001 has been registred (Re: Santa Fe Super Chief Train Engine Registry)
 
(...) I get a blank page on Netscape 4.78 on Windows 2000. I think the problem is a missing </FRAME> tag. If you directly load the page it works fine: (URL) William R Ward bill@wards.net (URL) If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the (...) (23 years ago, 22-Feb-02, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Lowest (legit) number yet proudly enters service in the UK :-)
 
A1013 arrived today, along with A1036, not yet built. (URL) (23 years ago, 22-Feb-02, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: No. A0001 has been registred (Re: Santa Fe Super Chief Train Engine Registry)
 
(...) ngltc home page is fine. -- Tony Hafner www.hafhead.com www.pnltc.org (23 years ago, 22-Feb-02, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: No. A0001 has been registred (Re: Santa Fe Super Chief Train Engine Registry)
 
(...) As of 11:15 on Feb 22, the registry page does nto appear under Netscape 4.76 under Windows. The asp won't load. Is this done by design? Paul S (23 years ago, 22-Feb-02, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: 10020 limited to 10000 sets or not?
 
(...) He said "Decent" not "Cute"... every club should have a Thomas(tm) but that doesn't mean I want LEGO(r) to dump effort into licensing it. Na, give us an A4 Mallard(1) (think of the compound curved pieces for that one!!!) 1 - check me on that, (...) (23 years ago, 22-Feb-02, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: 10020 limited to 10000 sets or not?
 
(...) Heck yeah, a whole line of them (read: Thomas) -John (...) (23 years ago, 22-Feb-02, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: 10020 limited to 10000 sets or not?
 
(...) Personally, I don't think 10000 is all that limited. I mean, even after Larry's placed his order[1] there'll still be plenty to go around. What production run would you expect of a set like this? I'm not a huge fan of forced 'collectibility', (...) (23 years ago, 22-Feb-02, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: No. A0001 has been registred (Re: Santa Fe Super Chief Train Engine Registry)
 
(...) I thought it smelled a little odd. I was not sure, so I did not want to make any accusations... Scott A (...) (23 years ago, 22-Feb-02, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: No. A0001 has been registred (Re: Santa Fe Super Chief Train Engine Registry)
 
Yeah, I guess someone thinks they're being funny. Since that's not Brad's email and he lives in New York. (...) (23 years ago, 22-Feb-02, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: Metroliner question
 
(...) High School Physics: To get the same efficiency from DC, we'd literally need a power station in every district of a city/town. Despite that, AC power distribution is High Voltage/Low Current (was DC the same?) as this ensures low power losses (...) (23 years ago, 22-Feb-02, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: Buffers
 
Using the responses, I've been able to check out the sets on Brickshelf; I'm not surprised I missed them first time round! Judging by the lack of other train related pieces in the box, I guess they are likely to have been sold as the single items (...) (23 years ago, 21-Feb-02, to lugnet.trains)
 
  No. A0001 has been registred (Re: Santa Fe Super Chief Train Engine Registry)
 
I noticed No. A0001 has been registred: (URL) A "James J. Trobaugh" <james@ngltc.org> wrote in message news:GrspzI.ow@lugnet.com... (...) special (...) list. (...) how (...) purely (...) the (...) (23 years ago, 22-Feb-02, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: The wonderful Blacksmith Shop: Open Letter to Dan
 
I got mine yesterday, knew I was going to be very happy, right from seeing the beautiful box art (was expecting the half-disappointing black & white/gray "legends" style). Enjoyed putting it together - but the real seal of approval came from my 4 (...) (23 years ago, 22-Feb-02, to lugnet.castle, lugnet.build.arch, lugnet.build.military, lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: wow - brickswest 2002
 
(...) Well, I was only able to attend for a few hours on Saturday, and I must say, that was some of the best few hours I've had in a long time! I finally got to see some of the creations I've been ooohing and awwing at over the past few years (...) (23 years ago, 22-Feb-02, to lugnet.events.brickswest, lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: Metroliner question
 
You may be correct, as I really have never seen or studied the systems of which we are referring. My aspects were only mere assumption. I base my hypothesis on a bit of history from the Edison era. In his thriving days of supplying power to the (...) (23 years ago, 22-Feb-02, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: Metroliner question
 
(...) Well, the electric buses in San Francisco share one of their wires with the historic trolleys along Market St. I'm pretty sure the trolleys are D/C, or the tracks would represent a shock hazard, yes? --Bill. (23 years ago, 22-Feb-02, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: I've got mine!!!
 
(...) right corner, making this picture seem like something for LEGO's advertising. I suggest selling them this picture. :) -Bryan (23 years ago, 21-Feb-02, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: Santa Fe Super Chief Train Engine Registry
 
You're just trying to make work for me aren't you John? :) The only problem with setting the Registry up so that you can update your information is that I would have to have some kind of login system so I know it's you changing your stuff. Maybe I (...) (23 years ago, 21-Feb-02, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: I've got mine (too)!!!
 
(...) To answer your question is ...yes... LEGO got permission to use and produce the stickers of BNSF logo. I am not sure what deal was made. And I believe BNSF wants or would like to sell the set in their company store for BNSF employees. Also (...) (23 years ago, 21-Feb-02, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: I've got mine (too)!!!
 
(...) It varies. If you read rec.models.railroad you will find that some lines are quite willing to work with hobbyists (Norfolk Southern, for example) and others are quite tight (Union Pacific, for example)... which is why I say in my MTW-2001 (...) (23 years ago, 21-Feb-02, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: I've got mine (too)!!!
 
(...) From what I've heard/read, Santa Fe will be allowed to sell the model in their gift shops. I'll bet that was the deal made... Dean (23 years ago, 21-Feb-02, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: I've got mine (too)!!!
 
(...) Oh, I doubt that they paid anything to do it-- they just were covering their bases. There's got to be some unwritten rule (maybe it is written somewhere) allowing model railroad set manufacturers to reproduce train logos new and old. Why (...) (23 years ago, 21-Feb-02, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: I've got mine (too)!!!
 
"Steve Martin" <martinsa@mail.com> wrote in message news:GrwJz2.AqL@lugnet.com... (...) [ ... snipped ... ] (...) item. (...) Do we know for a fact that LEGO paid for a license or did they just have to get permission from BNSF? I read the (...) (23 years ago, 21-Feb-02, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: I've got mine!!!
 
(...) (23 years ago, 21-Feb-02, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: I've got mine (too)!!!
 
(...) I wonder if part of the real issue is they had to pay for the license up front to BNSF for a specific number and therefore since they were limited anyway, they just went ahead and made this a "first-edition" collectors item. Steve Martin (...) (23 years ago, 21-Feb-02, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: Santa Fe Super Chief Train Engine Registry
 
(...) Which brings to mind an interesting point: Is it *really* scrapping if the set never got built in the first place? (as will be the case with mine) Perhaps I'll have to buy a third to build for comparison. And perhaps I'll buy another one to (...) (23 years ago, 21-Feb-02, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: I've got mine!!!
 
Pics of them (and the kids "playing" with them) at (URL) (23 years ago, 21-Feb-02, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: 10020 limited to 10000 sets or not?
 
i agree with this sentiment. in my mind limited edition in the case of the super chief is a short production run of 10,000 and NO MORE. what's the point of having a LIMITED EDITION if only a second run is going to be made with the only difference (...) (23 years ago, 21-Feb-02, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: Santa Fe Super Chief Train Engine Registry
 
(...) Good idea. Some of mine are gonna be scrapped the day they arrive... (I have a mind to try an Alco PA ish variant) Also probably want to correctly credit the Santa Fe "circle plus sign" logo, the chief drumhead and other decorative material as (...) (23 years ago, 21-Feb-02, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: The wonderful Blacksmith Shop: Open Letter to Dan
 
(...) Dan, My Blacksmith Shop arrived yesterday, and I just have to write and tell you how much I enjoyed building it. What a pleasure it was to watch all your beautiful details emerge from this model! There are so many things I like, so let me name (...) (23 years ago, 21-Feb-02, to lugnet.castle, lugnet.build.arch, lugnet.build.military, lugnet.trains)  
 
  Re: Santa Fe Super Chief Train Engine Registry
 
(...) Hey JT- As I was building an 8 wide version of the Super Chief, I got to thinking-- since my sets will be kit-bashed-- maybe it would be fun to include a place on the registry as to when the particular SC in question got scrapped:-) -John (...) (23 years ago, 21-Feb-02, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: I've got mine (too)!!!
 
"Carl Billen" <Carl.Billen@realsoftware.be> wrote in message news:Grw9v1.5GJ@lugnet.com... (...) tiles. (...) it, (...) following (...) production (...) So, it looks like there may be more that 10k made. (...) the (...) That explains why the engine (...) (23 years ago, 21-Feb-02, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: Buffers
 
(...) In addition to various 4.5v sets as mentioned by other responses, you could also buy them individually at some toy stores in Europe in the late 70's. -- Tony Hafner www.hafhead.com www.pnltc.org (23 years ago, 21-Feb-02, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: I've got mine (too)!!!
 
Hi everyone! I'm now the happy owner of two Santa Fe Super Chief engines (number A6195 and A6465). I placed my order the 18th and today (the 21st) they had arrived (here in Belgium). The big box says "Limited Edition" in the lower right corner, and (...) (23 years ago, 21-Feb-02, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: I've got mine!!!
 
(...) That was the first thing I did, it doesn't get updated instantainiously (sp?). Thanks to James for creating that list BTW. Thanks Jonathan (23 years ago, 21-Feb-02, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: I've got mine!!!
 
(...) Go put it up on the Santa Fe Registry! (check main page and announcements for it). I ordered mine yesterday, and found out that some will be coming to the Outlet store in Georgia (Dawsonville, GA) soon! Scott Lyttle (23 years ago, 21-Feb-02, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: Version 2 of the ETR480
 
(...) Looking good! Glad to see the pics. later, James Mathis (23 years ago, 21-Feb-02, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: Metroliner question
 
In lugnet.trains, Kevin Wilson writes: snip (...) Tucson has a small but functional trolley line running around the University of Arizona area. It is complete with trolley tracks and overhead power lines. It's just a tourist type attraction since (...) (23 years ago, 21-Feb-02, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: Metroliner question
 
<snip> (...) </snip> Lar, I would imagine that the busses are using A/C power which wouldn't require an abrupt change in current flow as a DC circuit would in the reversing loop (as long as phase A and phase B are open in the same exact place). That (...) (23 years ago, 21-Feb-02, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: Metroliner question
 
(...) That's really interesting--because I found a ton of information on catenaries (spelt correctly now, heh) by typing in that incorrect name in Google/Yahoo. Apparently it's not a LEGO-based flub, but it must predate the part. best LFB (23 years ago, 21-Feb-02, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: Metroliner question
 
Larry Pieniazek wrote in message ... (...) Vancouver still has electric buses too, though for how much longer, who knows. Some city streets still have the trolley lines embedded too (and they are a ^%#%$#^ to drive over!), although the trolleys have (...) (23 years ago, 21-Feb-02, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: I've got mine!!!
 
(...) I ordered mine on Friday & rec'd it in NYC today. A2241 for those interested. extra bag in the shipping box was the 'pole' pieces used as handrails on the side of the engine, red & grey. My packing slip indicated "you may notice slight (...) (23 years ago, 21-Feb-02, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: Metroliner question
 
(...) I forgot about those! I rode those when I was a callow youth as well. (lived in Hamilton 1966-1968) (...) Tranna was one of the last NA cities to still run PCC's in "regular service". SF has them on the F (Market) line but that's sort of (...) (23 years ago, 21-Feb-02, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: Metroliner question
 
(...) When I was oh so muchh younger than I am now, the city busses in Hamilton, Ontario, Canada, used the double pole thing for electric feed. THose were phased out years ago. I don't know how they overcame the loop thing but hey did, since the bus (...) (23 years ago, 21-Feb-02, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: I've got mine!!!
 
When did you order? Robert Powell (23 years ago, 21-Feb-02, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: I've got mine!!!
 
(...) Then jeroen better hope he gets the b1212 and b1391 service packs ;) Scott A (...) (23 years ago, 21-Feb-02, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: I've got mine!!!
 
(...) Yeah. They are packed seperated with a manual (?). Didn't open it yet. Couldn't find a certificate as such. But maybe is it packed with the tiles. There is one Lego tile and a numbered one. Still half an hour before I am going to home... Will (...) (23 years ago, 21-Feb-02, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: I've got mine!!!
 
(...) Might it just stand for it being an "A" unit (as opposed to a "B" unit)? Steve Martin IndyLUG (23 years ago, 21-Feb-02, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: 10020 limited to 10000 sets or not?
 
(...) Just because somebody has ready money to spend, doesn't mean they aren't true Lego fans. Besides, Lego isn't in the business to sell to "true fans". They are in it to make money. Yes, they have high ideals. But without a doubt, Ole Kirk (...) (23 years ago, 21-Feb-02, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: Metroliner question
 
(...) Tranna has these too, as does SF. Electric buses are cool, especially the articulated ones. They can sneak up on pedestrians, you have to be on your toes!!! Of course buses use trolley poles and single wire (per pickup), rather than (...) (23 years ago, 21-Feb-02, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: I've got mine!!!
 
I assume the "A" prefix indicates the first batch. Assuming LEGO ever issues additional batches, the prefix might be incremented. Any thoughts or comments? -- John Eric Voltin "Jeroen de Haan" <jeroendehaan@mac.com> wrote in message (...) (23 years ago, 21-Feb-02, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: Metroliner question
 
(...) I have no issues whatever with sounding pedantic. :-) It's "pantOgraph".. and technically the catenary is the carrier wire, not the power wire. See my glossary, referenced from the front page of this newsgroup. (23 years ago, 21-Feb-02, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: I've got mine!!!
 
"Jeroen de Haan" <jeroendehaan@mac.com> wrote in message news:Grvx2E.G7t@lugnet.com... (...) Did you have to open the boxes to determine the numbers? Mike -- Mike Walsh - mike_walsh at mindspring dot com (URL) - North Carolina LEGO Users Group (...) (23 years ago, 21-Feb-02, to lugnet.trains)
 
  I've got mine!!!
 
Just arrived! Number A1212 and A1391. Can't wait to get home!!!! Jeroen (23 years ago, 21-Feb-02, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: Metroliner question
 
(...) Not wishing to sound pedantic but technically it's called a pantagraph. The catenary is actually the suspended wire above the railway which supplies power to the train. Mark (23 years ago, 21-Feb-02, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: Metroliner question
 
(...) It is a catenary holder. Read this old thread: (URL) A (...) (23 years ago, 21-Feb-02, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: Metroliner question (addendum)
 
Whoops! Forgot a few pictures: (URL) They may be long in the tooth, but you can see the cantenary clearly in the photos. LFB (23 years ago, 21-Feb-02, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: Metroliner question
 
(...) It doesn't take a real train-head to answer that. It's the conductor for electric power--raised to contact with the overhead lines. We don't use a third rail in *every* situation. ;) (Added factlet: Boston still has power lines up for *buses*, (...) (23 years ago, 21-Feb-02, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Metroliner question
 
Since I'm train illiterate, I have a question about the Metroliner. What is the purpose of this piece ((URL) the cantenary? And I've been browsing amtrak.com to find some pictures of the real Metroliner, but the best I've found thus far is this: (...) (23 years ago, 21-Feb-02, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: Buffers
 
The where used in the following sets: 134, 136, 137, 149, 163, 164, 166, 183 and 723 Bert "Simon Gammon" <Simon@gammon.demon.co.uk> wrote in message news:3FCTxMAGIEd8Ewm...n.co.uk... (...) (23 years ago, 21-Feb-02, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: 10020 limited to 10000 sets or not?
 
(...) The sooner a LEGO Direct item becomes unavailable, the sooner that item begins to show up on eBay at inflated prices. Isn't that one of the things LEGO Direct was supposed to help stop? I am personally against any sort of 'Limited Edition' (...) (23 years ago, 21-Feb-02, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.lego.direct)
 
  Re: Single Buffers
 
Simon, These were attached to the 4.5V battery cars. They were used in at least the 7720 & 7722, possibly others: (...) (23 years ago, 21-Feb-02, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: Super Chief and it's Numbers
 
(...) I would be real surprised if your receipt will have the engine # on it.So that does you very little in proving you have x number engine. (23 years ago, 21-Feb-02, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: Super Chief and it's Numbers
 
(...) If there isn't a "certificate"...then the next <prudent> thing would be to keep your receipt from your shipment. This way here, you have unrefutable evidence that your SuperChief is the REAL DEAL. That is my suggestion.... Benjamin Medinets (23 years ago, 21-Feb-02, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: Supplementary parts for 10020?
 
Apparently, after a long conversation with a Consumer Affairs employee, the part numbering system goes a little something like: (and these are ALL assumptions because of tight fisted meeting and emails flying around TLC right now about leakage of (...) (23 years ago, 21-Feb-02, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: transcript is up
 
(...) I really like those portholes--for obvious (shipbuilding) reasons. I do hope the service packs include multiple portholes in grey. From the instruction photos I saw, the thinwalls are indeed pre-printed. (...) I only want some of the (...) (23 years ago, 21-Feb-02, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Buffers
 
I have two separate buffers pieces, each attached to a single 1x2 black plate. Any ideas which set(s) these may have come from? (23 years ago, 21-Feb-02, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: transcript is up
 
(...) There is a very anoying bug in Acrobat, and it might be the source of your problems. Sometimes, opening a PDF inside Explorer seems to "hang" all the windows. Just minimize every window on your desktop and you will probably see a dialog asking (...) (23 years ago, 21-Feb-02, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: transcript is up
 
(...) for (...) boiler (...) So the next question is, will the B unit update pack provide some different interior parts that look like a boiler???? ROSCO (23 years ago, 21-Feb-02, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: Supplementary parts for 10020?
 
(...) Was there a charge incurred with these packs? This item is getting more and more interesting. My best guess (if there is no extra cost) is that the numbered stickers(or printed 1x2 tile, or whatever it ends up being) are packaged seperatly, (...) (23 years ago, 20-Feb-02, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: transcript is up
 
(...) The portholes are 2x2 clear thinwalls that have been printed red or grey. The # tile is printed. The Santa Fe graphics are stickers. (...) Ditto, but I don't mind buying multiple 10020s to build other cars. -- | Tom Stangl, iPlanet Web Server (...) (23 years ago, 20-Feb-02, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: 10020 at brickswest and what the Sr. VP of lego direct said
 
Price point taken, yes, they would be expensive in the individual packs like 7858 & 7859. Speaking as a former 12V user, there was that nice little add-on called 7863. When I bought my system in 1985 (great year for American Dollar) in Europe, I (...) (23 years ago, 20-Feb-02, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: 10020 in S@H catalogue?
 
The tiles are printed, not stickered. (...) -- | Tom Stangl, iPlanet Web Server Technical Support | Sun Microsystems Customer Service | iPlanet Support - (URL) Please do not associate my personal views with my employer (23 years ago, 20-Feb-02, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: Supplementary parts for 10020?
 
Nope, 46 parts is too many - maybe this is the rumored parts pack for converting it from an A unit to a B unit? (...) -- | Tom Stangl, iPlanet Web Server Technical Support | Sun Microsystems Customer Service | iPlanet Support - (URL) Please do not (...) (23 years ago, 20-Feb-02, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: 10020 limited to 10000 sets or not?
 
(...) I understood it as Mark did. Personally, after 10,000, I rather see a *different* engine run of 10,000 and have the Super Chief go out of production for a while (based on the fact that LD can only have so many different sets in production at (...) (23 years ago, 20-Feb-02, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: transcript is up
 
(...) Thanks for that clarification. I said "usually"... your clarification nicely proves what I've repeatedly said in the past... "in railroading there are ALWAYS exceptions". But I'll stick with my usually. The usual major mechanical difference is (...) (23 years ago, 20-Feb-02, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: Supplementary parts for 10020?
 
(...) They are probably the 2 light gray side bars which fit over the 9 volt train motor. So when you decide to power your Super Chief, the wheels will match the already light gray wheels that come in the set. -John (...) (23 years ago, 20-Feb-02, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Supplementary parts for 10020?
 
Hi all, I placed an orer Friday for 2 Santa Fe Super Chiefs, along with the Deluxe Metro Liner Kit. I received the Metro-Liner today, and on the invoice it stated that the 2 Super Chiefs were on backorder, but it also stated that there were 2 (...) (23 years ago, 20-Feb-02, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: transcript is up
 
(...) The above link says the Super Chief B units also carried a steam generator for heating / air conditioning, and the A units carried extra water for the boiler in the B units. ROSCO (23 years ago, 20-Feb-02, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: 10020 at brickswest and what the Sr. VP of lego direct said
 
(...) Sad, but i'm working on a kit to do so. If you still see Mr.Brad Justus, can you ask him when we will get our bulk discount in Europe too? I mailed Shop At Home Europe, and they replied with the message that there aren't plans to do it. I, and (...) (23 years ago, 20-Feb-02, to lugnet.trains)
 
  NGLTC Greenberg Show
 
A message of thanks to James Trobaugh and all the NGLTC gang this past weekend at the Greenberg show. It was great to see their layout and meet many of the members. Also, they were all very patient and helpful, despite the fact that I had nearly (...) (23 years ago, 20-Feb-02, to lugnet.trains)


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