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Re: Why can't we have a Lando: Lego's Race policy
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lugnet.starwars, lugnet.general, lugnet.off-topic.debate
Date: 
Mon, 1 May 2000 21:25:34 GMT
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In lugnet.starwars, Dave Schuler writes:
> In lugnet.starwars, Mike Petrucelli writes:
> 
> > If mini-Han and mini-Luke had tan heads then it would make sense for mini-
> > Lando to have a >brown head.  However they are not based on the actors.
> 
>  But what you're not incorporating into this assertion is the fact that, at
> least on some level, the development of the characters was influenced by the
> actors themselves.  Luke's run-in with the Wampa (sp?) was dictated by an
> accident suffered by Mark Hammill.  The execrable Last Crusade went out of its
> way to explain in the opening vignette how Harrison Ford's chin-scar appeared
> on Indy's face.  To assert that the characters exist in a void completely
> separate from the actors is to do a gross disservice to the actors portraying
> them and the writers writing them.  As such, whether they "should" or
> "shouldn't," the figures *do* represent the actors, if only at one step's
> removal.

All mini-fig humans are yellow.  Billy Dee Williams is human therefore a
mini-fig copy of him would be yellow.  What is so difficult about this.  No one
cares that Mark Hammill and Harrison Ford were made yellow.

> 
> > Mini-Luke and mini-Han have yellow heads even though Mark Hammill and
> > Harrison Ford do not.  So it would make sense for mini-Lando to have a yellow
> > head even though Billy Dee Williams does not.
> 
>  If this were strictly true, then I think a case could be made that Vader's
> head should also have been yellow; since there's no "genetic" reason for him
> to have been gray, the mini-head should have been the same uniform color as
> all the other human denizens of the Lego universe.

Ah but if you go to my original post you see I stated all "healthy" mini-fig
humans are yellow.  Unhealthy/dead people have been white and dark grey
(skeletons/mummy's) so it is not odd for Vader to be light grey.  I would
expect the Emperor to be light grey as well as he was not all that healthy
looking.

> 
> > Lord Insanity
> > (who is still trying to figure out why people don't understand that skin
> > pigmentation doesn't change one's race, that of human.)
> > Ethnic backround also has nothing to do with the amount of pigmentation in
> > one's skin.
> 
>  While these tired statements are, strictly speaking, true, they do nothing
> to defuse the very real problems of perceived racial identity, ethnicity, and
> intercultural friction.  Obviously there’s no "race" gene, any more than
> there’s an "English-speaking" gene, but people have been doing a great job of
> persecuting other "races" for millennia, and a simple linguistic confection
> isn’t going to change that.

Exactly.  The X-men cartoon addressed this concept with giant robots programmed
to "protect humans from mutants"  The giant robot leader told the human
politican that the directive is illogical.  "Mutants are human.  Therefore
humans need protection from themselves."

Humans are ignorant.  That is why this discussion is occuring.  To restate
myself: no one cared that Han and Luke are yellow, why would they care if Lando
is yellow?  All three are human.  All healthy human mini-figs are yellow.  Why
is this so difficult to grasp?

-Lord Insanity



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  Re: Why can't we have a Lando: Lego's Race policy
 
(...) Lando (...) I couldn't agree more that humans are ignorant. So, no one cared that Han and Luke were yellow. And, IF they release a Lando, and he's yellow, I'll buy him. I would want brown, but I'd buy yellow. But are you telling me that you (...) (26 years ago, 1-May-00, to lugnet.starwars, lugnet.general, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
  Re: Why can't we have a Lando: Lego's Race policy
 
In lugnet.starwars, Mike Petrucelli writes: (major snippage) (...) It failed my "Emperors New Clothes" test. Emperor with non-existant clothes that no one wanted to admit weren't there, but a child pointed out weren't there? Okay, so I explain (...) (26 years ago, 1-May-00, to lugnet.starwars, lugnet.general, lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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  Re: Why can't we have a Lando: Lego's Race policy
 
(...) But what you're not incorporating into this assertion is the fact that, at least on some level, the development of the characters was influenced by the actors themselves. Luke's run-in with the Wampa (sp?) was dictated by an accident suffered (...) (26 years ago, 1-May-00, to lugnet.starwars, lugnet.general, lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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