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Re: Proposed: A New Kind of Timeline (was Re: The LD environment)
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lugnet.space
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Mon, 4 Oct 1999 21:52:52 GMT
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In lugnet.space, Tom McDonald writes:
> In lugnet.space, Steve Bliss writes:
> > On Thu, 30 Sep 1999 22:02:16 GMT, "Duane Hess" <DNJHESS@ZDNETMAIL.COM>
> > wrote:
<SNIP>
> > I don't know, where do we draw the line? I seem to have bothered some
> > people. I didn't start this thread to be exclusionary, but to encourage
> > consistency. Maybe none of this matters.
>
> I've been having second thoughts to limiting technology, given the wide
> variety of magic, super-heroes, aliens, and super-technology. I've been
> racking my brain trying to come to some sort of compromise by suggesting a
> timeline where all could show their creations, but some things overlap, such
> as Earth history in relation to the above things. For example, Earth comes
> into many Lego universes, but each one treats it's future with relation to
> space differently, sometimes very differently. Some universes have mechs
> protecting Earth, others have Earth being almost devoid of life so mass
> exploration and exodus are underway.
>
> To update my previous idea: maybe we need a timeline with branches on it that
> show how, where and when paradigms merge into and splinter from real life
> showing possible outcomes given how history might have changed if such-n-such
> happened. This is to encourage the inclusion of the fantastic as well as the
> mundane and not necessarily have them collide. Those space histories that have
> already happened, like Star Wars, would, of course, just stand alone. Such
> histories could be presented on their own lines if they are never involved
> with Earth. Same idea with those histories that have yet to happen.
The downside to this, as I see it, is that everyone would want their own
timeline. Is that feasible and reasonable?
>
> Personally, while I'm not necessarily for more magical sci-fi, it's clear that
> some are, and are attracted by it. It's not my aim to alienate other space
> paradigms and impose certain restrictions (such as no transporters, light
> sabres, etc., as I don't want to throw out fun in lieu of science) now that
> I've read what more folks have to say. If we use such a timeline, it might
> work. I want everyone to be included.
>
> Thoughts? Critiques? If folks post how their stuff fits (or not) into an Earth
> timeline, I'd like to post a timeline including how the paradigms fit in.
> People's web pages would be accessible along various points of the line or
> their splinters more likely. I'd need people's paradigm/Legoverse/universe
> name and how, when/where it fits, if it fits at all. At
> www.baylug.org/titan/lugnetspace.htm you'll find a mockup timeline. The Krelb
> Universe does not intersect with Earth at all, but is included just to show
> inclusion of another fictitious parallel universe, thought at this point it
> may or may not be subject to the timeline. Dunno yet.
>
> > Actually, if no one wants to
> > step up to the plate and be the John VanZwieten of the Dativerse, then
> > definitely none of this matters.
If memory serves me, what Steve meant(2) was "who will take over ownership of
the project?" That is, who will actually take on the job of collecting the
dat files and rendering them? I feel that I am not suited for the task. I do
not have the resources, nor the desire to.
> Town has the luxury of it's own imposed yet widely-accepted restrictions
> already. This is because everyone knows what's goes into the making of a town
> and what doesn't.(1) Therefore quibbling about light-sabres in Town is moot.
> While some may argue (successfully) that Town is it's own universe, Space is a
> *much* wider theme (wouldn't we all agree?) that includes whole worlds filled
> with towns and more. That's where the problem lies: space is too big to be
> portrayed as a neat little package for all us space nuts to develop and use
> coherently and consistently because there's no working IRL model. But even if
> there was, we'd still change it to how we'd want it cuz it's Lego, and we can!
> :-)
>
> -Tom McD.
> when replying, try new juniper-scented deodorant urinal spamcakes today!
>
> (1) Yet, theoretically, this could also raise problems/discussion too. What if
> someone wants to make a nuclear reactor for Town's Datsville? In Space,
> there's rarely a problem with this kind of installation, but in Town it can be
> a big deal indeed, given how some feel about the disposal of nuclear waste.
-Duane
(2)(3) I hope that I'm not super-imposing my own thoughts onto Steve's words.
(3) Tom already used footnote 1, so I had to pick up where he left off :-)
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