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    Re: Apology for Jesse Long —Matthew Gerber
   (...) Geordan, I'm going to tell you a story...not a defense, kinda' an explanation, but definately NOT a flame toward you or anyone else...get from it what you will... Once upon a time, or about February 2001, I found LUGNET. I began posting, and, (...) (23 years ago, 5-Aug-01, to lugnet.people)
   
        Re: Apology for Jesse Long —Shiri Dori
     I gotta back Matt up here. People were acting quite normally towards Jesse at first, only giving him constructive criticism as to how to get his points across in posts. But look, Geordan, Jesse has been here for awhile (more than a month at least, (...) (23 years ago, 5-Aug-01, to lugnet.people)
    
         Re: Apology for Jesse Long —Selçuk Göre
       (...) More than that, I strictly believe in ether he uses his annoying style just for the purpose of being annoying, or he hire someone to type some of his messages. Just read his messages, you will be sure that there are two very different styles. (...) (23 years ago, 6-Aug-01, to lugnet.people)
    
         Re: Apology for Jesse Long —Nathan Falslev
      I agree completely, I know you don't need reassurance that you're right, but you are. I feel that I did nothing wrong in my replies to Jesse. I really wanted him to understand what I was trying to get across. It didn't work, and that's really (...) (23 years ago, 6-Aug-01, to lugnet.people)
   
        Re: Apology for Jesse Long —Jesse Alan Long
     (...) Maybe it is time to overthrow the dictatorship. People who have attitudes as yourself seem to justify the cliques and gangs that you form in life. Maybe they are your OWN best interests at heart and not my best interests at heart on Lugnet, (...) (23 years ago, 5-Aug-01, to lugnet.people)
    
         Re: Apology for Jesse Long —Matthew Gerber
      In lugnet.people, Jesse Alan Long writes: <snip for lack of sanity> Jesse, You managed to miss each and every point I took my time to type last night, and be offended by them. I guess I really shouldn't have expected more from you...but I had a (...) (23 years ago, 5-Aug-01, to lugnet.people)
    
         Re: Apology for Jesse Long —Tom Inosanto
      **Note** I have censored Jesse's post with "@@@"'s to cover the offensive words.. In lugnet.people, Jesse Alan Long writes: <snip> (...) As well is NOT ALLOWED on Lugnet, this is uncaled fo at any response, and I am offended that you choose to have (...) (23 years ago, 5-Aug-01, to lugnet.people, lugnet.admin.terms)
     
          Re: Apology for Jesse Long —Matthew Gerber
      (...) I decided to let that slide in the context it was said...but you are correct, Tom. <snip> (...) E-mail, too, has failed...sadly. I've been privvy to some of the mail, and it hasn't worked any better than words here. But Tom, this IS a public (...) (23 years ago, 5-Aug-01, to lugnet.people, lugnet.admin.terms)
     
          Re: Apology for Jesse Long —Jesse Alan Long
       (...) Why argue any more online? Does any person on Lugnet even KNOW exactly what started this arguement? I think that constructive criticism (which I have been trying to do very strongly to most people online) should be allowed on Lugnet. I believe (...) (23 years ago, 5-Aug-01, to lugnet.people, lugnet.admin.terms)
      
           Re: Apology for Jesse Long —Mladen Pejic
       -snipped J.A.L.'s usual BS- (...) And what creations have you shown us here on LUGNET? None. You can't install MLCAD on your computer and build your models on the computer. What are you, 20 years-old? Wow, I know young teenages who can run MLCAD on (...) (23 years ago, 5-Aug-01, to lugnet.people, lugnet.admin.terms)
      
           Re: Apology for Jesse Long —Jesse Alan Long
        (...) You seem to want to keep the arguement going, Mladen, otherwise you would stop the arguements. Without the arguements, what would you do with your miserable life? Where do you live, anyway, Mladen? Maybe over in where you live, more children (...) (23 years ago, 5-Aug-01, to lugnet.people, lugnet.admin.terms)
       
            Re: Apology for Jesse Long —Jake McKee
        (...) Consider this the help you claim you need.... 1. Go to (URL) and read. 2. Click on "New User" at the bottom of the page 3. When you click "New User", you will be taken to (URL) This page offers a numbers of things, including: - Complete (...) (23 years ago, 5-Aug-01, to lugnet.people, lugnet.admin.terms)
      
           Re: Apology for Jesse Long —Larry Pieniazek
       (...) No idea if it's true or not, but in one thread or another I believe Jesse said that he posts from a library computer via the web interface, where nothing can be installed... I haven't followed closely enough to know if he's subsequently (...) (23 years ago, 5-Aug-01, to lugnet.people, lugnet.admin.terms)
     
          Re: Apology for Jesse Long —Stephen Rusnak
      "Matthew Gerber" <matthew@digitaliris.com> wrote in message news:GHLwqD.HsH@lugnet.com... (...) offensive (...) son of a (...) Lugnet. (...) response, and I (...) below... (...) <snip> I do not care what context it was in, I just had my 9 year old (...) (23 years ago, 5-Aug-01, to lugnet.people, lugnet.admin.terms)
     
          Re: Apology for Jesse Long —Shiri Dori
      (...) Perfectly agreed. -Shiri (23 years ago, 5-Aug-01, to lugnet.people, lugnet.admin.terms)
     
          A note to jesse long, amongst others —Leonard Hoffman
      dude, ive never heard of you before.. im a castlehead and rarely leave that newsgroup, but for somereason i found this message line today and have read it all. here are some thoughts ive had, hopefully they'll help somewhat. 1) 'netiquette' is not (...) (23 years ago, 6-Aug-01, to lugnet.people, lugnet.admin.terms)
    
         Re: Apology for Jesse Long —Geordan Hankinson
      Wow, all I can say is that I'm in shock. I come home to a flame war. Jesse, I'm trying to advocate for you, I'm trying to help you fit in better and I'm trying my best. I thought at first it was going to work, but you keep sending profane flames (...) (23 years ago, 5-Aug-01, to lugnet.people)
     
          Re: Apology for Jesse Long —Jesse Alan Long
      (...) Geordan, as well, as every other person on Lugnet, I said in those paragraphs: I never wanted to fit in at school and people respected me because I had my own unique style and that I did not back down from any person in school. I tried to be (...) (23 years ago, 5-Aug-01, to lugnet.people)
     
          Re: Apology for Jesse Long —Geordan Hankinson
      huge snip- (...) Tim did not say that to you, he used profanity as an example (...) Jesse, they won't accept your apologies from you because you don't change. Stop flaming people and they'll stop flaming you, gauranteed. -Geordan- (...) (23 years ago, 5-Aug-01, to lugnet.people)
     
          Re: Apology for Jesse Long —Jesse Alan Long
      (...) I, too, was using profanity as an example, albeit in the wrong place. I can not help that these people refuse to acknowledge this in their minds. Maybe they insist that they are truly right in their minds and that I am truly wrong and so they (...) (23 years ago, 5-Aug-01, to lugnet.people)
    
         Re: Apology for Jesse Long —Selçuk Göre
      (...) Having rules to live with has nothing to do with being a dictatorship. (...) In the borders of your uncle's country, I'm sure you must obey some rules , too. And In the boundaries of Lugnet, which is a private property literally, you must (...) (23 years ago, 6-Aug-01, to lugnet.people)
    
         Re: Apology for Jesse Long —Benjamin Medinets
      I just want to add my on 2 cents into this pointless discussion. Whether or not Jesse is trying to be annoying, argumentative, and / or disruptive.... I don't think it merits all the replies it has.... if you look at the last week or so, there are (...) (23 years ago, 6-Aug-01, to lugnet.people)
   
        Re: Apology for Jesse Long —Geordan Hankinson
   snip- (...) Ribbing! HA! example: "My family thinks this too Tim, but I'd rather not talk about my father, my drug-addicted sister, my alcoholic brother, my rude mother, my stupid uncle Joe, and my demonic aunt Susan. " That is more like stabbing It (...) (23 years ago, 5-Aug-01, to lugnet.people)
   
        Re: Apology for Jesse Long —Matthew Gerber
   (...) Ummm...Geordan, you are obviously not reading the all of the posts, all of my post here, or follow-up posts properly. JESSE WROTE ALL OF THAT! Get it now? Jesse himself brings up things like that, in simple posts to .space. He uses off-hand (...) (23 years ago, 5-Aug-01, to lugnet.people)
   
        Re: Apology for Jesse Long —Mladen Pejic
     (...) I wrote that. I can't say I'm proud of it, in fact, I'm ashamed of it. I apologize Jesse. What frustrates me most about Jesse is his continuous refrences to Jerry Springer and South Park, as well as his weird metaphors/analogies, and, how can (...) (23 years ago, 5-Aug-01, to lugnet.people)
   
        Re: Apology for Jesse Long —Jesse Alan Long
   (...) If you do not care for other people, other people will not care for you and since you seem to be a cabal of people who are insensitive jerks, how CAN you feel anything in life? I never went to Lugnet to talk about myself. If I wanted to talk (...) (23 years ago, 5-Aug-01, to lugnet.people)
 

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