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In lugnet.admin.general, Orion Pobursky wrote:
> In lugnet.admin.general, Chris Magno wrote:
> . <snip>
> > cause i am prepared to walk away from lugnet the second this place becomes the
> > "forced happy fun place" i see it becoming.
>
> I back you 100% Chris.
>
> To quote the guy who came up with the "7 Words":
>
> "There are no bad words. Bad people, bad intentions, but the words themselves
> are not bad."
>
> *Everything* must be taken in context. Zero tolerence policies don't work:
> http://zerointelligence.net/
>
> -Orion
I also agree.
We need to appreciate the difference in cultures and distinct societies, for
example, words, expressions and colloquialisms considered NOT offensive in my
country are listed as "offensive", "profantity" or "lude" in other countries.
While I would love to hit on some pretty bad/good ones (I am respectfully
abiding by the ToS) so I will list a few tame ones just to prove my point.....
"Bloody" I say "not bloody likely" often, and have even posted it here in the
past, it was never offensive in my mind, nor intended to be....but after
searching offensive words in UK I found a site listed it as the 27th most
offensive word there (the rest of the list was darn interesting as well.)
"Routing" to me never had any offensive meaning until I found out what others
meant by it. (Well I still don't personally find it rude, I am sure some would.)
"Spastic" to me, is someone suffering from a state of increased spasms, but call
someone that in other parts of the world, and you have just delivered a huge
amount of smack.
"Slag" to me, means the material residue of smelting processes from
metalworking, but not to some readers located in other regions.
"Goof"..... fairly harmless comment made in general society, unless you happen
to be in prison. You would have better luck in making it alive through the
night calling your cell-mate something consider more offensive here, then
calling them a "goof" due to the connotations it carries in that society.
I can "blow my wad" (spend all my cash on lego) or "boink" (bang my head for
blowing said wad) all while "humming"... God save the "queen". Does that make
me offensive?..... well that depends on your state of mind.
My point, and yes I do have one is.....How can we (read: Lugnet) "protect" ppl
from offensive words, if we (read: the members) are not even aware what is
offensive in other parts of the world, or to others?
By our intent. By our context. By living with substance.
Not by a list of George's "7", or my "1", or his "19" or "your" 507.
As far as I am concerned, the "profanity issue" is a load of "krunk!" This is a
public forum that prides itself in lack of censorship. If children are reading
it, then it is the job of any respecting parent/guardian to police/monitor their
children, as I would do with mine (if I felt Lugnet was worse then anything they
hear at home or in the school yard.)
My kids have taught me some slang that *I* didn't even know. Am I proud of that
fact??? Darn right, because that truly means one thing to me, I have opened the
lines of communication here in *my* home, and my children already understand it
is the intent of your words that matters, not the actual words.
Do I let them swear in my home, in my presence? Without a doubt.
Have they ever sworn *at* me. Never! (And yes, one is a teen, and we don't see
eye to eye on everything.)
Why? It is a matter of respect, a respect that goes both ways, from me to them,
and back to me.
Janey "I am offended by the word ‘geek'(1), Red Brick"
(1) geek
"sideshow freak," 1916, U.S. carnival and circus slang, perhaps a variant of
geck "a fool, dupe, simpleton" (1515), apparently from Low Ger. geck, from an
imitative verb found in North Sea Gmc. and Scand. meaning "to croak, cackle,"
and also "to mock, cheat." The modern form and the popular use with ref. to
circus sideshow "wild men" is from 1946, in William Lindsay Gresham's novel
"Nightmare Alley" (made into a film in 1947 starring Tyrone Power).
A geek today is someone who is nice but socially inept.
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