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| | | | | Re: Whatever happened... —Calum Tsang
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| | | | | (...) Since you've asked this question directly, probably worse or neither. Those who post directly on the topics themselves are the worst offenders, either pro or contra. I'm just opining on the posters themselves, which is probably not any better, (...) (20 years ago, 21-Dec-04, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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| | | | | Re: Whatever happened... —David Koudys
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| | | | (...) I was perfectly for the 'ignore them' routine. The situation, however, is that the company of our chosen hobby has representatives here and they see the shenanigans and the b*tchfest going on by a vocal minority. How then can we, as adult fans (...) (20 years ago, 21-Dec-04, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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| | | | | | Re: Whatever happened... —Calum Tsang
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| | | | | (...) You know, I didn't think of that, and it's a really good point Dave. A lot of opportunities are going to disappear when Jake and/or Lego finally get fed up with us. Calum (20 years ago, 21-Dec-04, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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| | | | | | | Re: Whatever happened... —Derek Raycraft
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| | | | | | | (...) I wouldn't be surprised if opportunities have already been lost. I also fear the day that Jake finally gets fed up and quits. I don't see anyone else stepping forward to fill these shoes, and I don't see Lego Corporate feeling much presser to (...) (20 years ago, 21-Dec-04, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: Whatever happened... —Steve Hassenplug
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| | | | | | | | (...) I was thinking about this earlier. Jake just needs to shut-up. Whenever he starts talking, it seems to get him (and TLC) into trouble. Imagine if he had never said anything about the Maersk ship. People would not have expected it to become a (...) (20 years ago, 21-Dec-04, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: Whatever happened... —John Barnes
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| | | | | | | | (...) I think I may have to make a new year's resolution, give up on lugnet and just browse brickshelf instead. That's where most of today's cool MOCs show up anyhow. Lugnet doesn't seem to have a lot to do with the art and craft of Lego these days. (...) (20 years ago, 21-Dec-04, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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| | | | | | | Re: Whatever happened... —Larry Pieniazek
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| | | | | | | (...) It sure is! (...) Can anyone think of *anyone* in the hobby that would have taken as much abuse as Jake has? Anyone? I sure can't. Call that Jake-fanboyness if you want, but we are by my reckoning already about 2 incidents into borrowed time (...) (20 years ago, 21-Dec-04, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: Whatever happened... —Calum Tsang
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| | | | | | | | (...) No, and it was voluntary, AFAIK. He took the initiative to be the community liaison and while I don't know exactly what happened, my impression was that he pitched his superiors on the idea of being that link. I'm the kind of guy at work who (...) (20 years ago, 21-Dec-04, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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| | | | | | | Re: Whatever happened... —Mike Walsh
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| | | | | | | In lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto, Calum Tsang wrote: [ ... snipped ... ] (...) Treading ever so lightly into rtl since it appears to be the only sane part of LUGNET right now. I would wager there are more than a few people at LEGO who are already fed up (...) (20 years ago, 21-Dec-04, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: Whatever happened... —Larry Pieniazek
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| | | | | | | | (...) Ya. AND THAT'S SCARY. Chris Magno: sane??? Well more seriously... .build isn't too bad. In fact can I put a general pitch/plea in? If you see a MOC you like, and you think it worthy, *spotlight* it.. that's one way to move the non MOC stuff (...) (20 years ago, 21-Dec-04, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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| | | | | | | Re: Whatever happened... —Kelly McKiernan
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| | | | | | | (...) That's pretty much what drove me out of my black hole of lurkerdom. I don't think the negativity expressed on LUGNET is fully representative of the AFOL audience, but if there are no rebuttals to some of the most outlandish displays of pique, (...) (20 years ago, 21-Dec-04, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: Whatever happened... —Kyle D. Jackson
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| | | | | | | | (...) [Finger on nose, and pointing at Kelly.] :] KDJ ___...___ LUGNETer #203 (20 years ago, 22-Dec-04, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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| | | | | | | Re: Whatever happened... LETS end this..... —Chris Magno
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| | | | | | (...) OK, i haven't even made it through this thread, and I'm I'm.... I'm something.... mad, bored, angry, lethargic.... all of the above. I was NOT going to say this in public.... but now I will. WE ~HAVE~ JUMPED THE SHARK!!!! PERIOD! END OF (...) (20 years ago, 21-Dec-04, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Whatever happened... LETS end this..... —Kyle D. Jackson
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| | | | | | | (...) [snip] There is so much interesting discussion in this thread, I couldn't decide which post I wanted to reply to most. But I picked this one because of this one phrase. I often find that while sitting in front of the PC to respond to a post, I (...) (20 years ago, 22-Dec-04, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: Whatever happened... LETS end this..... —Chris Magno
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| | | | | | | | | (...) WOW, look at me... adding up the post count. since i asked for the ideas I guess i should start off by saying thanks. (...) 1. the marshmallow is gone. the cat at it. (...) you are correct, BUT one teeny tiny point is that this is NOT just (...) (20 years ago, 22-Dec-04, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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| | | | | | | | | | | Re: Whatever happened... LETS end this..... —Kyle D. Jackson
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| | | | | | | | | | (...) Okay, but IMO that's a second, separate issue from "the fall of Lugnet", although it does have influence upon it. The question is how do you think it's influencing Lugnet? If you think users like ourselves are burning out on Lugnet and LEGO in (...) (20 years ago, 23-Dec-04, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: Whatever happened... LETS end this..... —Larry Pieniazek
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| | | | | | | | (...) Ouch. (...) I'll give you an answer right now, how's that. As I understand it (remember I ain't the techie here, just the gadfly) the technology to archive a group exists. The group itself doesn't go away, it's just not visible any more, stuff (...) (20 years ago, 22-Dec-04, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: Whatever happened... LETS end this..... —Kyle D. Jackson
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| | | | | | | | (...) Well, since S.A. doesn't seem to be around anymore to keep you on your toes, somebody's gotta take up the slack ;] (...) Sounds perfect! (...) Okay, fair enough. That was your first reply..., you could use the second one for the definite (...) (20 years ago, 23-Dec-04, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Whatever happened... LETS end this..... —Rob Antonishen
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| | | | | | Chris, Chris, Chris... You are just going through the transition that many of us have already had... from BC to AD (Before Children to Adult Depression : ).... You have finally discovered now that you have a child, you are (slightly) less a child (...) (20 years ago, 22-Dec-04, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Whatever happened... LETS end this..... —Chris Magno
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| | | | | | (...) OK rob, your still new(ish) so I'll cut you some slack. 1. I am a barometer of all things lugnet. if its hapening to me, its going on ALL OVER. so you may be right about the BC/AD thing, but what it really means is that MANY people will now, (...) (20 years ago, 22-Dec-04, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Whatever happened... LETS end this..... —Rob Antonishen
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| | | | | | | (...) I thought Dave K. nominated himself King, with strong support from J.R.B. Remember... "proclaim that I am hereby appointed king of all the lands... and we shall call it 'This Land'..." Did you miss the memo? -Rob. (20 years ago, 22-Dec-04, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: Whatever happened... LETS end this..... —C. L. GunningCook
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| | | | | | | | (...) LOL, I got that memo, here let me look it up..... yep right (URL) THERE!!!> although for the record, it seems that even at that time there were some controversy with said memo. Yay to lack of standardization!!! Yay to the lack of confusing (...) (20 years ago, 23-Dec-04, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto, FTX)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Whatever happened... LETS end this..... —Kyle D. Jackson
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| | | | | | (...) So some people leave. I don't know if you intend to equate losing long-standing members from the site/hobby with the absolute demise of the site, but it's kinda sounding that way. People have this un-natural expectation that an on-line (...) (20 years ago, 23-Dec-04, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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| | | | | | Re: Whatever happened... —Steven Coallier
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| | | | | (...) I'm not sure I agree. The Internet is a hyper-acceleration of the human tendency to spend more time on negative communication than on positive. Any company gleaning information from a customer or fan base on the Internet must, in order to (...) (20 years ago, 21-Dec-04, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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| | | | | | Re: Whatever happened... —Kyle D. Jackson
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| | | | | (...) [SNIP] (...) I'm going through the same evolution as you, too. It's one thing to ignore general nuisances. But it's another to ignore troublemakers who are in your own backyard stirring up crap and potentially ruining things for everyone of (...) (20 years ago, 22-Dec-04, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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| | | | | | A New Plan (WAS Re: Whatever happened...) —Peter F. Guenther
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| | | | (...) A few thoughts: I was fairly active on RTL from '93 or '94 until '96, and less active but a frequent reader of LUGNET from late 2000 to late '03. I agree that the community and the spirit are not what they used to be. In fact, I hesitate to (...) (20 years ago, 22-Dec-04, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto) !
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