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Re: Virtues of Veganism?
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Mon, 4 Jun 2001 18:15:53 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Larry Pieniazek writes:
http://www.dieselsweeties.com/strips/sw171.shtml

(Just couldn't bear to stick this on the end of rolling blackouts, that
thread is out of control sizewise)

Hmmm, I don't know what you may have implied by posting that link but it
seems like the guy in the comic is suddenly more open minded and aware of
the many problems associated with meat and it's consumption. Sounds good to
me! If the comic is meant to be a jab at vegetarians, it needs work.

There are a lot noble and ethically sound principles with vegetarianism,
namely that food should be healthy and free of toxins and that animals not
be mistreated. In my opinion, killing animals for food is not mistreatment
if the animal was raised without cruelity and death was humane (quick and as
painless as possible). Also, no animal should be imprisoned and be subjected
to torturous experiments.

It is interesting to note that people in most non-Western countries
(especially Third World countries) have diets that are closely vegetarian.
They often have staples of rice and beans as well as local fruits and
veggies. Meat is served more as a side dish and eaten maybe once a week,
with exception of most coastal Asian cultures that eat fish daily.

When I lived in Michigan, there was an Islamic store that sold Halal meat
(which means the animal was raised naturally and slaughtered mercifully).
They got their meat from Amish farms. The cost was a bit more than the
regular grocier but the meat was better quality. Since moving to California,
I've discovered that there are many farms that raise and slaughter animals
for the prominent Moslem communities here. For those who don't want to give
up meat but want better, healthier meat without the cruelity try an Islamic
store. They take their food very seriously and with good reason, considering
some of the disgusting practices in mainstream American agriculture.

I think that the principles and practices of meat production and consumption
in America need to change. People should know where their food comes from
and what is really in it, so they can make better choices. Ultimately, I
think vegetarianism is better for the earth because it requires less land
and resources. Industrialism has pushed us so far from natural, healthy
living. We should return to old fashion common sense.

Dan



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  Re: Virtues of Veganism?
 
(...) Where were you a year ago?! We had this shooting match then, and another participant would have been welcome! 8^) (...) It is more interesting to me that this is often a result of economic conditions rather than some prevailing morality. It (...) (23 years ago, 4-Jun-01, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
  Re: Virtues of Veganism?
 
(...) Nothing, other than I thought it was funny that I ran across that comic right after the topic came up in .debate... which is why I set FUT .fun. Maybe I should have left it on .debate... I've snipped your discussion, below, not because I agree (...) (23 years ago, 4-Jun-01, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
  Re: Virtues of Veganism?
 
(...) I don't believe in killing anything for food, including plants as well! And as for medical experimentations, I believe that people should fit the bill nicely. -Harvey (23 years ago, 5-Jun-01, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
  Re: Virtues of Veganism?
 
(...) Seemed to me like the comic was more of a jab at the "recent convert" mentality than anything else... :) James (23 years ago, 5-Jun-01, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)

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(URL) couldn't bear to stick this on the end of rolling blackouts, that thread is out of control sizewise) ++Lar (23 years ago, 4-Jun-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.off-topic.fun)

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