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Re: Lego RPG DraK'en.
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Date: 
Mon, 25 Nov 2002 22:34:37 GMT
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In lugnet.fun.gaming, Frank Filz writes:
> Matt Hein wrote:
> > 
> > Hello, I've recently completed one of my comprehensive
> > lego rpgs for your enjoyment, so here goes.
> > 
> > http://www.lugnet.com/~1112/DraKen
> 
> One thing I'd like to point out is that at least from a quick glance at
> the rules, I would not really call this an RPG. While any game
> (including Monopoly) could be considered a "role playing game", in the
> (non-computer) gaming industry, the term RPG has traditionally reffered
> to a game style where players typically play a single character, and
> typically there is a game master (referee) who creates a world for the
> characters to interract with.

And why not a party of characters? IIRC, one of the rules in the game
states that you must control or deploy a "leader" character, in
which this game revolves, although you can control party proponents
as well, there are several rule variations, in which you could
only control one character, including such quests as expionage.

I believe the employment of a game master only conplicates
the process, and might drive several potential players away
from the entire concept.

> What your game appears to be is a miniatures wargame, and if finer
> detail of classification is desired, it might be considered a "skirmish"
> game (skirmish is a term typically used to refer to games where each
> player controls a small number of units which represent individual men).

True, call it what ever you want. It is purely the discretion of
the player on which to define a genre (as the term RPG has became
so conflicting nowadays, it is the base of senseless arguments and
conjectures.)

You're suggesting I append the category, then?

> Like any area of interest in the world, it is hard to pin things down
> exactly, but I hope most people understand that classification systems
> which at least attempt to create categories which allow differentiation
> of the different types of things. How useful would it be if the only
> thing which had any common understanding of meaning was that most of the
> things you get at Barnes and Noble are "books" but they don't even
> bother to divide them among "non-fiction", "history", "crafts", "science
> fiction", "horror", "romance" etc. What if the only category of things
> purchased at Tower Records was "music", no "rock", "pop", "classical",
> "heavy metal", "christian rock", "celtic", "jazz", etc.?

Well,that's not the case...If you want, label my game "ambiguous".
(If it applies to several genres, good then...everyone has a
different definition for RPG...)

> When we go looking for new things to try, we usually either want to find
> something similar to what we have already experienced, or something
> completely different, or maybe something which is similar, yet
> completely different. By creating commonly understood categories, we
> enable such searches.

> I'm sorry for this digression but as a compartmentalized dork, I take my
> categorization somewhat seriously.

Well, that explains everything now, doesn't it?

> I really resent that the computer
> gaming industry has diluted the meaning of RPG (I have yet to see any
> computer game which I would put in the same category of game as Dungeons
> and Dragons, or Vampire, or any of the other traditional RPGs).
> That is not to say that these computer games are bad (many of them are darned
> good games in their own right, but they are their own category [I can
> somewhat accept the term "computer role playing game", I really like the
> term, interractive fiction, many people have adopted for games which
> trace their roots to Adventure (aka Colossal Cave) and Zork]).

Interactive Fiction...sounds snazzy...

<<_Matt Hein_>>
Fellow lego enthusiast



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(...) the rules, I would not really call this an RPG. While any game (including Monopoly) could be considered a "role playing game", in the (non-computer) gaming industry, the term RPG has traditionally reffered to a game style where players (...) (24 years ago, 25-Nov-02, to lugnet.gaming, lugnet.off-topic.fun)

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