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| (URL) which this editorial goes on about... " The failure of the Bush team to produce any weapons of mass destruction (W.M.D.'s) in Iraq is becoming a big, big story. But is it the real story we should be concerned with? No. It was the wrong issue (...) (21 years ago, 4-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| <snip> (...) Very good quote. Essentially saying let someone else think and act for me. There have got to be better ways to achieve anti-terrorism goals than promoting fear and division. I wonder how events would have played out post 9/11 had a less (...) (21 years ago, 4-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| (...) Boy, Dave, you just don't comprehend the subtleties of the American Justice System! There's no requirement that the detainee be "not American" in order to be held indefinitely without access to due process. All that's necessary is for the (...) (21 years ago, 3-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| Responding to my own posts, 'cause, well, I can... The differnce b/w the BBC website and the CNN website-- BBC News - Americas (URL) which the top stories are concerning the WMD investigation " US Senate opens Iraq weapons probe A Congressional (...) (21 years ago, 3-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| Weapons Of Mass Disappearance The war in Iraq was based largely on intelligence about banned arms that still haven't been found. Was America's spy craft wrong - or manipulated? (URL) Where are Iraq’s WMDs? The message was plain: Saddam’s weapons of (...) (21 years ago, 3-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| (...) Hey, we have a situation in Toronto where a 10 year old girl disappeared and the next day was found in pieces in a bag on Toronto Island--the police wanted to take DNA samples of all previously convicted pedophiles in the area and some (...) (21 years ago, 2-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| We can do whatever we want and offer no apologies... (URL) it's a great day for news...) " The report looks into the cases of 762 people who were living in the US illegally and were detained in the 11 months following the attacks. " and the part (...) (21 years ago, 3-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) I'm very much on the same lilly pad as Sir Frog here. I've become EXTREMELY uncomfortable in the years since I've watched the Bush dynasty flourish. It all makes a thinking American either very paranoid or disdainful of the American system's (...) (21 years ago, 2-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) I'm very glad the ACLU is there to take the case. I must say, I hope they lose, and I presume they will since a driver's license is not a right, but it doesn't bother me in the slightest that they took the case. Without the ACLU, all we would (...) (21 years ago, 2-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| (...) My favourite place to debate is the pub, but that's another story. ;) (...) I tend not to trust US media due to its “liberal” bias and its blind support for all things Bush... ;) (1) Here's a couple of quotes for you: Two 'clean' trucks - the (...) (21 years ago, 2-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| (...) Hooo boy. The Register is far, far to the right. The Los Angeles Times is barely left of center. Honestly, they both reflect the counties they are in. (...) I gotta agree with this assessment (see above). (...) Conservative: pro laissez-faire, (...) (21 years ago, 2-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| (...) Such an attack is usally groundless and proffered by a person that has no idea what the "left" is really about. The all encompassing "media" is hardly "left." Offhand, I'd say Costello has no real knowledge of "left" or "right" -- I hear a lot (...) (21 years ago, 1-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) But...but...it was a great victory! We kicked a dictator's hairy butt! Never mind it cost us a bazillion dollars! Never mind that all the religious zealots are coming out of the woodwork and want to run Iraq. Ooooooo, when did all this cute (...) (21 years ago, 29-May-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| (...) Peace, love, man! :-) (...) Moore is entertaining, kinda like that beacon of The Liberal Media, Rush Limbaugh. And in the same way. ;-) Not that Moore's veracity is the question here, rather that there are those in the media already (...) (21 years ago, 31-May-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| A. I'm actually in favor of less taxation, but that it is not the way our system is currently structured and I am not going to hold my breath waiting for a change. B. I don't want to get mired in a discussion about what is 'income' v. 'capital' -- (...) (21 years ago, 1-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) Tsk. Someone from southern california and he doesn't mention the Orange County Register. The Long Beach paper is (was? it's been a while since I've seen it) conservative. The Los Angeles Times is barely left of center. The New York Times: who (...) (21 years ago, 31-May-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) Thus full circle, bringing back the idea of the UN and it's 'un'failure. Of course, some would say that the *only* reason why Iraq's supposed WoMD were destroyed at all was the imminent threat of the US military action. I would not be one of (...) (21 years ago, 30-May-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Dave Schuler wrote: <snip> (...) I am a bit concerned, and agree with you here. I think programming has long been homogenized. However, I rarely see the pro conservative agenda being advanced. My main concern is the lack (...) (21 years ago, 31-May-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| While file-sharing enthusiasts debate the draconian powers of the DMCA, and while slack-jawed-America-at-large watches the Laci Peterson case and an avalanche of pro-war journalism, a minor piece of legislation is being prepared for a vote on June (...) (21 years ago, 30-May-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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