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Re: Can Harry Browne do it?
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Sun, 5 Nov 2000 23:49:18 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Christopher L. Weeks writes:
> What beats personal and group responsibility with as much liberty as you can
> swallow? Almost everyone I talk to will admit that they agree largely with
> Libertarian ideals, but that they think they're radical zealots and so they'll
> go ahead and vote for their Republicratic candidate.
I've gotta look this up to be sure, because I couldn't believe my ears, but I
thought that Browne said there was no federal income tax before something like
1913. If I heard that correctly and it's true, it means that there are people
alive today whose parents didn't ever have to pay any federal income tax. I
probably already learned this in high school but federal income taxes are such
a huge part of life that it's sometimes tough to imagine life without them.
It's sad how much national government has grown in the past century. I don't
think it's radical or zealotry to want to go back to simple things that
actually worked. I hope the LP can get this point across to more people each
year.
BTW, is the LP against bloated state government (I would imagine so) or
mainly against bloated national government?
> No, the votes won't be enough. It still takes huge gobs of money that you
> can only get by being taken generally seriously and representing special
> interests.
What about the non-presidential seats up for grabs? I imagine those must cost
a lot of money as well. How many of the ~1400 LP candidates currently running
in this coming election are expected to win?
--Todd
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| (...) Yup. It was quite a national argument too. The proponents of a federal income tax eventually got it passed by assuring (though not writing it into law) the skeptics that it could never go over something like 3% of income. (...) I never thought (...) (24 years ago, 6-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
| | | Re: Can Harry Browne do it?
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| "Todd Lehman" <lehman@javanet.com> wrote in message news:G3Ksu6.76n@lugnet.com... (...) can (...) with (...) they'll (...) but I (...) like (...) people (...) I (...) such (...) them. I believe it was implimented temporarily for the Civil War by (...) (24 years ago, 6-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
| | | Re: Can Harry Browne do it?
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| (...) It's true, except for during the civil war. It was unconstitutional, and as proof I point out that a constitutional amendment was required to get it past the supreme court which routinely struck down any income tax laws (they were steamrolled (...) (24 years ago, 6-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) I haven't actually seen him speak, but he will be the third LP presidential candidate that I will have voted for. I think it all comes down to money, and the LP isn't willing to get enough of it to actually take hold. I am a "belly up to the (...) (24 years ago, 5-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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