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Re: ("life affirming" == "no initiation of force") == "all rigihts are property rights"?
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lugnet.off-topic.debate
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Thu, 13 Jan 2000 03:29:52 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Larry Pieniazek writes:
> what does it mean to manipulate matter?
> what does it mean to create something?
> if an animal is amoral, can it have property?
> if things are required for survival, how does one obtain them by reason,
> as reason is the tool we have?
I'm not sure at what level of detail you want these answered, but I'll take a
stab at it.
(What does it mean to manipulate matter?)
It means, at the most basic of levels, that I am exercising my will on my
surroundings.
(What does it mean to create something?)
At a very fundamental level, creation is meaningless, but I'm assuming you want
to move it a step or two closer to relevance. It means that my environment has
been manipulated into a form that wouldn't have occured without intervention.
(If an animal is amoral, can it have property?)
I don't see morality and property as intrinsically linked. So, depending on
what you mean by "property", I'll give a cautious yes.
(If things are...tool we have?)
Hmm. I'm not sure how to read this. I could just say that we use our reason
to direct the manipulation of our environment such that the things we need are
created, but that's a bit glib, and circular to boot. Also, I could argue that
reason alone is insufficient, but that's nitpicking. Hmm.
My instinct right now would be that reason allows us to circumvent the
'instinct' loop, but I don't think that's all there is too it. I'll have to
think about this one some more.
James
http://www.shades-of-night.com/lego/
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