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Re: ("life affirming" == "no initiation of force") == "all rigihts are property rights"?
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Date: 
Mon, 10 Jan 2000 21:41:41 GMT
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mattdm@mattdmSPAMLESS.org
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Larry Pieniazek <lar@voyager.net> wrote:
what does it mean to manipulate matter?
what does it mean to create something?

I think I've addressed these to some degree in my other message. If there's
more you'd like me to say, let me know.


if an animal is amoral, can it have property?

Both property rights and morality are only meaningful in a social setting. A
human being alone in the universe has need for neither. I'd suggest that
some animals with developed social structures could have something like
moral structures. If they wanted to develop a more complex society, it might
be useful for them to develop property rights as well.


if things are required for survival, how does one obtain them by reason,
as reason is the tool we have?

As James points out, reason is only one of the tools we have. For example,
we also have opposable thumbs, which are very handy for picking up things to
eat.


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  Re: ("life affirming" == "no initiation of force") == "all rigihts are property rights"?
 
(...) That's fine, but I am going to try to show that life-affirming REQUIRES property rights because of the nature of man. That is, to not recognise them is to be anti life affirming, or in other words if you want to be human, you have to recognise (...) (24 years ago, 9-Jan-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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