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Re: The War That Never Ends
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Fri, 1 Aug 2003 05:05:34 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Richard Marchetti wrote:
   In lugnet.off-topic.debate, John Neal wrote:

   Freedom is not the same as perfect safety. I can live with imperfect safety if I can retain my freedoms.

What is your definition of “imperfect safety”? As long as other people are killed by terrorists and I can still have my freedom, I can live with imperfect safety. Well what if you were in one of those towers? Tell me how you can live through that! You basically are willing to roll the dice and hope your number doesn’t come up. Other people may want a more secure response to terrorism.

   That’s the U.S. that everyone is willing to die for; not some fascist, right-wing, nightmare, no civil rights version of it.

lol I assume that you are implying that that is what we are living under currently?

   If I never had proof for your abhorrence for the Constitutional U.S., John, there it is above for all to read. I am so sorry that some of us “Pinko”, left-wing, U.S. Constitution loving patriots are planning to stand in the way of your psycho republican pals achieving some kind of crazed Xtian oligarchy. Sorry, but not too sorry...

I’m curious. Do you feel that FDR abhorred the US Constitution? Actually, I’ll bet you think every US president sucked, because you and your type are all about pointing fingers, blaming and critizing and nothing about actual solutions in the real world.

  
   The fact remains that SOMEBODY needs to stand up to these scumbags and hunt them down and wipe them from the face of the earth as an example for other future potential scum followers to see, as potential state sponsors of terrorism have seen WRT the fates of the Taliban and SH’s evil regime.

Do you mean power hungry beaurocrats that lock people up without right to an attorney or trial, and then torture them? Do you mean states that belligerently enter into and meddle in the sovereign affairs of other countries?

Ahh, is that how you’d characterize the butchery of Saddam Hussein-- “sovereign affairs”? You are disgusting.

JOHN



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  Re: The War That Never Ends
 
(...) Please explain with great specificity how the twin invasions of Afghanistan and Iraq have made us safer from terrorism. Of course, keep in my mind that there is much intelligence claiming the exact opposite of your probably false assertion (...) (21 years ago, 1-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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  Re: The War That Never Ends
 
(...) Uh, the stomach to defend the U.S. Constitution, John?! I'm sorry, but I think at least some of us are willing to do that and also have the stomach for it. Freedom is not the same as perfect safety. I can live with imperfect safety if I can (...) (21 years ago, 31-Jul-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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