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Re: The War That Never Ends
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lugnet.off-topic.debate
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Sat, 2 Aug 2003 15:33:04 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Richard Marchetti wrote:
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Great, lump me in with the Founding Fathers -- AGAIN! The govt. is not your
friend -- if that idea was good enough for Thomas Jefferson, it’s good enough
for me.
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Bad example. How did Thomas Jefferson deal with stateless terrorists? He
increased the power of centralized government, raised a navy, and went to war.
The Barbary Pirates (ummmm specifically the Corsairs of Tripoli) were seizing
ships and extorting every nation in sight, and while most of Europe paid the
bribes, Jefferson jettisoned theory for action. If anything, Jefferson provided
the model for Bush’s actions!
Of course, the threat to the United States was real then, unlike Dubya’s
trumped-up bull.
-->Bruce<--
(in fact, a veteran of the war against the Barbary Pirates remains afloat - “Old
Ironsides, the U.S.S. Constitution in Boston Harbor)
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Message has 1 Reply:
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| (...) And the enemy was actually defeatable, unlike now. Also, I don't see that Jefferson limited citizens rights during this period; but if I am in error I stand ready to be educated of that fact. I am not wholly unwilling to make some compromises (...) (21 years ago, 2-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| (...) Please explain with great specificity how the twin invasions of Afghanistan and Iraq have made us safer from terrorism. Of course, keep in my mind that there is much intelligence claiming the exact opposite of your probably false assertion (...) (21 years ago, 1-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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