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Re: The War That Never Ends
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Sat, 2 Aug 2003 20:41:42 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Bruce Schlickbernd wrote:
   Of course, the threat to the United States was real then, unlike Dubya’s trumped-up bull.

And the enemy was actually defeatable, unlike now. Also, I don’t see that Jefferson limited citizens rights during this period; but if I am in error I stand ready to be educated of that fact.

I am not wholly unwilling to make some compromises in the face of actual threat, provided those compromises are reasonable and something like martial law must be declared to defeat the enemy. No such conditions of that kind exist today. The measures under consideration are far too extreme to match up with anything like the idea of being reasonable.

Anyway, I’d rather argue the fine points of piracy, old and new, than continue against the imprecise arguments of my opponent, Mr. Neal...

-- Hop-Frog



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  Re: The War That Never Ends
 
(...) Well, no, the Barbary Pirates were like cockroachs. They hung around for quite some time despite numerous people trying to wipe them out. Once the Pax Brittanica began they were finally surpressed (another parallel for your example with the (...) (21 years ago, 2-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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  Re: The War That Never Ends
 
(...) Bad example. How did Thomas Jefferson deal with stateless terrorists? He increased the power of centralized government, raised a navy, and went to war. The Barbary Pirates (ummmm specifically the Corsairs of Tripoli) were seizing ships and (...) (21 years ago, 2-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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