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Re: With Saddam's sons dead, now we just need to bag dad (Baghdad get it?)
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Thu, 24 Jul 2003 03:17:56 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, David Koudys wrote:
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, John Neal wrote:
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, David Koudys wrote:
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And how many people seriously thoguht that the death of the kids was going
to help?
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They were bad. Do I celebrate *anyone’s* death? No. Do I put “..seriously
thought that the death of those two rat b***ards...” No.
I think that justice would be served if the couple in St Kitts were put to
death, but I would not celebrate it.
It’s as egregious as the folks who ‘celebrated’ the buildings collapsing.
Pathetically partisan? I’m not even a mmeber of your country. I couldn’t
give a rats heinie which party’s in power. How can I be partizan?
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I was referring to your partisan liberalness.
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Give yer head a shake. When I said ‘kids’ it had *no* moral implication one
way or the other and yet you read into it all that crap.
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I think you are unaware of how liberal your ideas actually are. I know I’m
conservative; I’d bet you think you are pretty moderate...
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I have said *repeatedly*, John, that SH was and still is a bad man. He did
wrong things for his people. So how about yo go back to reading
comprehension 101 and stop misreading things.
I will ask again--did SH’s actions justify the US disregard for the UN, the
lieing and bullying of other countries, the current fiasco? Try making
ammends for all the ‘partizan politics’ that Dubya, et al threw
around--“Those that aren’t with us are anti-American”?
Was SH an ‘American problem’? Could he have launched an attack within 45
minutes? Did he have aircraft, either drones or otherwise that could have
delivered payloads of WoMD to the continental US? Did he have nuclear
capabilities--or better yet, would he have them anytime in the near future?
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No (thanks to the Israelis). Your refusal to come to terms with the evilness of
SH is your achilles heel. Why do liberals in general have such a problem with
identifying and confronting evil in the world?
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When the war was nearly over, did he use the ‘non-existant’ WoMD as a last
ditch effort? All those lies that came from the white house. All lies.
Deal with that before you come at me with partizan crap.
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The memory loss of the left is quite remarkable. Everybody agreed that SH had
WMD-- even Clinton for that matter. They certainly existed. That we haven’t
found them yet only means that we haven’t found them yet.
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It matters a great deal to the Iraqi people. “Death of the kids”? Or how
about “death of the murderous, sadistic thugs”? Look how pathetically
partisan you’ve become-- criticizing the deaths of 2 pieces of human
excrement. Sad, really. I suppose you will light a candle when we hand
over SH’s head on a platter to the Iraqi people...
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Not to sound pithy or anything much like that, but it’s only the idiots and
morons that don’t learn from history--violence begets violence.
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Not pithy; how about “trite”? What lessons did you learn from WWII, Dave?
(Dirty little secret Dave: war is sometimes GOOD).
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And it took a kick in the teeth to get your xenophobic country interested.
It’s absolutely amazing that you can’t see the point that your contry *only*
gets involved in anything ‘international’ when there’s something American at
stake.
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??? Of course I acknowledge that we only act in our best interests! When did I
ever say otherwise?!
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Here’s the world saying in a unified voice, “We won’t tolerate this
type of behaviour even though it has nothing to do with our specific
countries at this time, but we’re involved because it’s the right thing to
do!” and here’s your country saying, “We’re not getting involved because it
doesn’t concern us. Oh wait,, we just got bombed so now we’ll react.”
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So, we are damned if we do and damned if we don’t. Sounds about right...;-)
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Much like your interests in the region of Iraq--because your current leaders
and the companies that are backing them (not to sound like hop-frog) have
much at stake in the area, lets get involved and make up a bunch of
half-truths and outright lies to get what we want for America. Never mind
that North Korea, which ahs little strategic or resource importance to
America is a larger threat to the world in general, never mind that NK has an
active nuclear program that we all know about, never mind that you don’t have
to go looking under a rosebush to find documents buried over a decade ago...
But NK? The Americans really don’t care about that place *now*. Sure, when
it was a battle pf ‘political ideologies’, then NK was very important for you
were battling ‘Communism’. But not so much now.
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Really? Care to guess how many US troops we have stationed in South Korea? We
care a lot.
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And this is the best example to date--an ill-conceived war based on
fallacy, greed and sheer ineptness, and look what you have? “US prepares
itself for guerilla war” “US prepares itself for long occupation” Before
the war it was “no guerilla warfare and no long occupation”. More
fallacies from this stupid administration that are now hopelessly proven
wrong.
Bungling, lieing, warmongering, greedy s.o.b.‘s.
Before the war I quoted, “Have fun storming the castle!”
Now it’s
“Nice mess you’ve created.”
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What would you have called the situation previously with the brutal SH in
power? It was a mess to begin with.
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I would call it a problem for the world leaders to work out, which they were
doing until the arrogant self righteous blow hard “lieing thru his teeth’
Dubya got involved. Iraq had *nothing* to do with 9/11. Iraq does not have
nuclear capabilities. Iraq could not launch an attack against America, not
in a month, day, or 45 minutes. Iraq does not have thousands and thousands
of tons of WoMD.
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How do you know that, Dave? Because we haven’t found any yet? We haven’t
found SH yet-- does he no longer exist? Your assertions are simply
groundless. This topic is getting pretty tired-- if we are back to arguing
about the relationship of SH and terrorism, then it might be time to put it to
rest.
JOHN
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