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Re: With Saddam's sons dead, now we just need to bag dad (Baghdad get it?)
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Wed, 23 Jul 2003 19:03:48 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, John Neal wrote:
   In lugnet.off-topic.debate, David Koudys wrote:

   And how many people seriously thoguht that the death of the kids was going to help?

They were bad. Do I celebrate *anyone’s* death? No. Do I put “..seriously thought that the death of those two rat b***ards...” No.

I think that justice would be served if the couple in St Kitts were put to death, but I would not celebrate it.

It’s as egregious as the folks who ‘celebrated’ the buildings collapsing.

Pathetically partisan? I’m not even a mmeber of your country. I couldn’t give a rats heinie which party’s in power. How can I be partizan?

Give yer head a shake. When I said ‘kids’ it had *no* moral implication one way or the other and yet you read into it all that crap.

I have said *repeatedly*, John, that SH was and still is a bad man. He did wrong things for his people. So how about yo go back to reading comprehension 101 and stop misreading things.

I will ask again--did SH’s actions justify the US disregard for the UN, the lieing and bullying of other countries, the current fiasco? Try making ammends for all the ‘partizan politics’ that Dubya, et al threw around--“Those that aren’t with us are anti-American”?

Was SH an ‘American problem’? Could he have launched an attack within 45 minutes? Did he have aircraft, either drones or otherwise that could have delivered payloads of WoMD to the continental US? Did he have nuclear capabilities--or better yet, would he have them anytime in the near future? When the war was nearly over, did he use the ‘non-existant’ WoMD as a last ditch effort? All those lies that came from the white house. All lies.

Deal with that before you come at me with partizan crap.

  
It matters a great deal to the Iraqi people. “Death of the kids”? Or how about “death of the murderous, sadistic thugs”? Look how pathetically partisan you’ve become-- criticizing the deaths of 2 pieces of human excrement. Sad, really. I suppose you will light a candle when we hand over SH’s head on a platter to the Iraqi people...

   Not to sound pithy or anything much like that, but it’s only the idiots and morons that don’t learn from history--violence begets violence.

Not pithy; how about “trite”? What lessons did you learn from WWII, Dave? (Dirty little secret Dave: war is sometimes GOOD).

And it took a kick in the teeth to get your xenophobic country interested. It’s absolutely amazing that you can’t see the point that your contry *only* gets involved in anything ‘international’ when there’s something American at stake. Here’s the world saying in a unified voice, “We won’t tolerate this type of behaviour even though it has nothing to do with our specific countries at this time, but we’re involved because it’s the right thing to do!” and here’s your country saying, “We’re not getting involved because it doesn’t concern us. Oh wait,, we just got bombed so now we’ll react.”

Much like your interests in the region of Iraq--because your current leaders and the companies that are backing them (not to sound like hop-frog) have much at stake in the area, lets get involved and make up a bunch of half-truths and outright lies to get what we want for America. Never mind that North Korea, which ahs little strategic or resource importance to America is a larger threat to the world in general, never mind that NK has an active nuclear program that we all know about, never mind that you don’t have to go looking under a rosebush to find documents buried over a decade ago...

But NK? The Americans really don’t care about that place *now*. Sure, when it was a battle pf ‘political ideologies’, then NK was very important for you were battling ‘Communism’. But not so much now.

  
   And this is the best example to date--an ill-conceived war based on fallacy, greed and sheer ineptness, and look what you have? “US prepares itself for guerilla war” “US prepares itself for long occupation” Before the war it was “no guerilla warfare and no long occupation”. More fallacies from this stupid administration that are now hopelessly proven wrong.

Bungling, lieing, warmongering, greedy s.o.b.‘s.

Before the war I quoted, “Have fun storming the castle!”

Now it’s

“Nice mess you’ve created.”

What would you have called the situation previously with the brutal SH in power? It was a mess to begin with.

I would call it a problem for the world leaders to work out, which they were doing until the arrogant self righteous blow hard “lieing thru his teeth’ Dubya got involved. Iraq had *nothing* to do with 9/11. Iraq does not have nuclear capabilities. Iraq could not launch an attack against America, not in a month, day, or 45 minutes. Iraq does not have thousands and thousands of tons of WoMD.

You gave the inspectors a few months before the war. Your time is now up. What did you find?

Oh right--fertilizer. That which makes plants grow. You know what makes good fertilizer? The stuff you’re spreading would be a good substitute.

  
JOHN

Dave K



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(...) I was referring to your partisan liberalness. (...) I think you are unaware of how liberal your ideas actually are. I know I'm conservative; I'd bet you think you are pretty moderate... (...) No (thanks to the Israelis). Your refusal to come (...) (21 years ago, 24-Jul-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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(...) It matters a great deal to the Iraqi people. "Death of the kids"? Or how about "death of the murderous, sadistic thugs"? Look how pathetically partisan you've become-- criticizing the deaths of 2 pieces of human excrement. Sad, really. I (...) (21 years ago, 23-Jul-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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