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Re: Freedom from information
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Thu, 27 Feb 2003 14:39:11 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Larry Pieniazek writes:
> In lugnet.off-topic.debate, John Neal writes:
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> > I find that I can form opinions by
> > using Conservatives as a sort of sounding board better than I can Liberals.
> > Though I find discussions with you and -->Bruce<-- intellectually stimulating,
> > you two, at least for me, are exceptions rather than the rule.
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> See, I think this paragraph very neatly spotlights the problem with the one
> dimensional labeling system in use (because it's simple?)
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> left-right ... liberal-conservative
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> To be fair you did not explicitly label Bruce and Dave! (1) But the
> inference that most any reader would draw is that you have.
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> I would reject that label. Bruce is not "liberal", per se, and neither is
> Dave! (1) Their positions are much more complex than that. As are,
> presumably, yours.
Yes, labels are restrictive and simplistic and I wouldn't necessarily hold
anyone to a category. My analysis was chiefly based upon my observation that I
am almost always in philosophical disagreement with these 2 guys on many
issues, and I am coming from a right and a conservative viewpoint. I could
have easily listed you as well based on our religious differences, but in fact
I find myself in agreement with many of your libertarian views.
Then again, the word "liberal" does mean *something*, doesn't it? If one's
views are predominantly liberal, can one not be called a Liberal? (realizing
that probably *nobody* is a straight party-line thinker in any group)
JOHN
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| (...) See, I think this paragraph very neatly spotlights the problem with the one dimensional labeling system in use (because it's simple?) left-right ... liberal-conservative To be fair you did not explicitly label Bruce and Dave! (1) But the (...) (21 years ago, 27-Feb-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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