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Subject: 
Re: stopping topics vs. dealing with troublemakers and nonconstructive participants
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lugnet.off-topic.debate
Date: 
Wed, 18 Dec 2002 10:13:59 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, David Eaton writes:
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Scott Arthur writes:
It wasn't what? A 1000+ word attack on me or a request that all ignore me?

It was only in part a request to ignore you. It was not a total troll post.


Obviously, I'm look at this from a different perspective.

But check the last 2 lines:
==+==
I admit a bit of cheating on ignoring him. if someone else responds, I have
been known to respond to the responder. I probably should stop that.
==+==

After all that fuss and effort, he can’t even bring himself to commit to
it! A case of : “Do as I say, not as I do!”

At least he admits he knows he shouldn't do it.

Is that good or bad?

It is better than not admitting that he behaves wrongly.

You've not answered my question.


No you didn't. The topic was already discussed and out it the open. People
knew exactly what was being referenced, which is why you were banned. Your
demonstration of a point that was already clear was unnecessary.

That is not how I remember events. I can assure you I did what I did in good
faith and in plain view.

There is a difference between shoplifting by example and explaining to
people about shoplifting.

I'm not sure I accept your analogy, can you show why it is relevant?

You could have explained how to fraudulently post instead of actually doing
it.

Indeed. Did I not apologise? Was my apology not good enough for you?

You could also show someone how a store is vulnerable to shoplifting by
actually doing it. Or you could just tell them about it.

Given that shoplifting is a crime with a victim, I'm not sure your analogy
holds water.


Does how it was viewed matter? Shouldn't what matter be that you
impersonated someone?

Can I impersonate someone by using my own name? Take a look, I did [IRC].

That is not the point.

I think it is. I object to your use of the word "impersonate".

You shoplifting a paper clip is still shoplifting.

Complaining about not justifying statements? I would like to see you justify
more of your statements in the future, and fewer 1-liners.

Youch – a 2 line attack ;) Does your view of me make Larry's rather ugly
antics acceptable?

Again, that is not the point.

I think it is. Feel free to show otherwise.


[BTW: I was actually complaining about not justifying accusations.]

A statement can be an accusation.

Indeed it can, but that is not always the case. Are you saying I have directed
unjustified accusations at anyone?

Scott A



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  Re: stopping topics vs. dealing with troublemakers and nonconstructive participants
 
(...) It was not a total troll post. Feel free to show that it was. (...) Yes I did. It is better to admit than not. (...) The apology was acceptable. But your criticism of Larry for the same seems hypocritcal. (...) The victims were people who (...) (22 years ago, 18-Dec-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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  Re: stopping topics vs. dealing with troublemakers and nonconstructive participants
 
(...) It was only in part a request to ignore you. It was not a total troll post. (...) It is better than not admitting that he behaves wrongly. (...) You could have explained how to fraudulently post instead of actually doing it. You could also (...) (22 years ago, 17-Dec-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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