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Subject: 
Re: stopping topics vs. dealing with troublemakers and nonconstructive participants
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lugnet.off-topic.debate
Date: 
Tue, 17 Dec 2002 17:48:16 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Scott Arthur writes:
> It wasn't what? A 1000+ word attack on me or a request that all ignore me?

It was only in part a request to ignore you. It was not a total troll post.

> > > But check the last 2 lines:
> > > ==+==
> > > I admit a bit of cheating on ignoring him. if someone else responds, I have
> > > been known to respond to the responder. I probably should stop that.
> > > ==+==
> > > 
> > > After all that fuss and effort, he can’t even bring himself to commit to
> > > it! A case of : “Do as I say, not as I do!”
> > 
> > At least he admits he knows he shouldn't do it.
> 
> Is that good or bad?

It is better than not admitting that he behaves wrongly.

> > > > No you didn't. The topic was already discussed and out it the open. People
> > > > knew exactly what was being referenced, which is why you were banned. Your
> > > > demonstration of a point that was already clear was unnecessary.
> > > 
> > > That is not how I remember events. I can assure you I did what I did in good
> > > faith and in plain view.
> > 
> > There is a difference between shoplifting by example and explaining to
> > people about shoplifting.
> 
> I'm not sure I accept your analogy, can you show why it is relevant?

You could have explained how to fraudulently post instead of actually doing
it. You could also show someone how a store is vulnerable to shoplifting by
actually doing it. Or you could just tell them about it.

> > Does how it was viewed matter? Shouldn't what matter be that you
> > impersonated someone?
> 
> Can I impersonate someone by using my own name? Take a look, I did [IRC].

That is not the point. You shoplifting a paper clip is still shoplifting.

> > Complaining about not justifying statements? I would like to see you justify
> > more of your statements in the future, and fewer 1-liners.
> 
> Youch – a 2 line attack ;) Does your view of me make Larry's rather ugly
> antics acceptable?

Again, that is not the point.

> [BTW: I was actually complaining about not justifying accusations.]

A statement can be an accusation.

DaveE



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  Re: stopping topics vs. dealing with troublemakers and nonconstructive participants
 
(...) Obviously, I'm look at this from a different perspective. (...) You've not answered my question. (...) Indeed. Did I not apologise? Was my apology not good enough for you? (...) Given that shoplifting is a crime with a victim, I'm not sure (...) (24 years ago, 18-Dec-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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  Re: stopping topics vs. dealing with troublemakers and nonconstructive participants
 
(...) It wasn't what? A 1000+ word attack on me or a request that all ignore me? (...) Is that good or bad? (...) I'm not sure I accept your analogy, can you show why it is relevant? (...) Can I impersonate someone by using my own name? Take a look, (...) (24 years ago, 17-Dec-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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