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Re: stopping topics vs. dealing with troublemakers and nonconstructive participants
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Date: 
Wed, 18 Dec 2002 17:22:36 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, David Eaton writes:
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Scott Arthur writes:
It was only in part a request to ignore you. It was not a total troll post.

Obviously, I'm look at this from a different perspective.

It was not a total troll post. Feel free to show that it was.

At least he admits he knows he shouldn't do it.

Is that good or bad?

It is better than not admitting that he behaves wrongly.

You've not answered my question.

Yes I did. It is better to admit than not.

With respect, you have not answered my question: Is that good or bad?


You could have explained how to fraudulently post instead of actually doing
it.

Indeed. Did I not apologise? Was my apology not good enough for you?

The apology was acceptable. But your criticism of Larry for the same seems
hypocritcal.

I was able to apologise and acknowledge my errors. Further, I don't view it
as the "same" - can you show how it is? Like I said, my action may have been
silly, but it was undertaken in good faith.


You could also show someone how a store is vulnerable to shoplifting by
actually doing it. Or you could just tell them about it.

Given that shoplifting is a crime with a victim, I'm not sure your analogy
holds water.

The victims were people who thought your post was by someone else.

Given that I was clear about what I was doing, who would have thought that?


Does how it was viewed matter? Shouldn't what matter be that you
impersonated someone?

Can I impersonate someone by using my own name? Take a look, I did [IRC].

That is not the point.

I think it is. I object to your use of the word "impersonate".

If you do not think you impersonated someone, they why did you apologize?

As I misused this forum.


Complaining about not justifying statements? I would like to see you
justify more of your statements in the future, and fewer 1-liners.

Youch – a 2 line attack ;) Does your view of me make Larry's rather ugly
antics acceptable?

Again, that is not the point.

I think it is. Feel free to show otherwise.

Obviously the point here was you justifying your statements. Not Larry's
'antics'.

As far as you are concerned; perhaps.


[BTW: I was actually complaining about not justifying accusations.]

A statement can be an accusation.

Indeed it can, but that is not always the case. Are you saying I have directed
unjustified accusations at anyone?

I am saying your statements are often made in o-t.debate without sufficient
justification.


That is a "no" then. You are spending time taking me to task as you feel I
make statements "without sufficient justification", yet you appear content
to let others make insulting and unjustified accusations. I find that a
little ironic.

Ultimately, if I make statements "without sufficient justification" - you
can quite easily show my error. I'm not sure how name-calling can be
rectified without making a mess. Do you have a solution?


Scott A



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  Re: stopping topics vs. dealing with troublemakers and nonconstructive participants
 
(...) What, no response? Example of lack of justification. (...) Yes I did. Admitting fault is better than not admitting fault. It is not as good as never having acted wrongly in the first place, though. (...) You both impersonated someone by (...) (22 years ago, 19-Dec-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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  Re: stopping topics vs. dealing with troublemakers and nonconstructive participants
 
(...) It was not a total troll post. Feel free to show that it was. (...) Yes I did. It is better to admit than not. (...) The apology was acceptable. But your criticism of Larry for the same seems hypocritcal. (...) The victims were people who (...) (22 years ago, 18-Dec-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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