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Subject: 
Re: stopping topics vs. dealing with troublemakers and nonconstructive participants
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lugnet.off-topic.debate
Date: 
Wed, 18 Dec 2002 16:47:37 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Scott Arthur writes:
> > It was only in part a request to ignore you. It was not a total troll post.
> 
> Obviously, I'm look at this from a different perspective.

It was not a total troll post. Feel free to show that it was.

> > > > At least he admits he knows he shouldn't do it.
> > > 
> > > Is that good or bad?
> > 
> > It is better than not admitting that he behaves wrongly.
> 
> You've not answered my question.

Yes I did. It is better to admit than not.

> > You could have explained how to fraudulently post instead of actually doing
> > it.
> 
> Indeed. Did I not apologise? Was my apology not good enough for you?

The apology was acceptable. But your criticism of Larry for the same seems
hypocritcal.

> > You could also show someone how a store is vulnerable to shoplifting by
> > actually doing it. Or you could just tell them about it.
> 
> Given that shoplifting is a crime with a victim, I'm not sure your analogy
> holds water.

The victims were people who thought your post was by someone else.

> > > > Does how it was viewed matter? Shouldn't what matter be that you
> > > > impersonated someone?
> > > 
> > > Can I impersonate someone by using my own name? Take a look, I did [IRC].
> > 
> > That is not the point.
> 
> I think it is. I object to your use of the word "impersonate".

If you do not think you impersonated someone, they why did you apologize?

> > > > Complaining about not justifying statements? I would like to see you
> > > > justify more of your statements in the future, and fewer 1-liners.
> > > 
> > > Youch – a 2 line attack ;) Does your view of me make Larry's rather ugly
> > > antics acceptable?
> > 
> > Again, that is not the point.
> 
> I think it is. Feel free to show otherwise.

Obviously the point here was you justifying your statements. Not Larry's
'antics'.

> > > [BTW: I was actually complaining about not justifying accusations.]
> > 
> > A statement can be an accusation.
> 
> Indeed it can, but that is not always the case. Are you saying I have directed
> unjustified accusations at anyone?

I am saying your statements are often made in o-t.debate without sufficient
justification.

DaveE



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  Re: stopping topics vs. dealing with troublemakers and nonconstructive participants
 
(...) With respect, you have not answered my question: Is that good or bad? (...) I was able to apologise and acknowledge my errors. Further, I don't view it as the "same" - can you show how it is? Like I said, my action may have been silly, but it (...) (24 years ago, 18-Dec-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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  Re: stopping topics vs. dealing with troublemakers and nonconstructive participants
 
(...) Obviously, I'm look at this from a different perspective. (...) You've not answered my question. (...) Indeed. Did I not apologise? Was my apology not good enough for you? (...) Given that shoplifting is a crime with a victim, I'm not sure (...) (24 years ago, 18-Dec-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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