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  Re: Vote against/for...
 
(...) What fun is that, except to a German after reading your malapropism:-) (...) As in show me a freer country than the US (it's comparative) (...) I doubt any "coruption (sic) from within" will attempt mass murder upon the citizens of the United (...) (23 years ago, 7-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Vote against/for...
 
(...) all (...) Actually I was referring to the removal of any reference of the World Trade Center towers. I was particularly annoyed that the deleted scene of Spiderman capturing a helicopter in a web between the the towers was not included on the (...) (23 years ago, 7-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Vote against/for...
 
(...) Are you referring to that stupid campaign to sue Peter Jackson for the name of the second film in the LoTR trilogy? If so, then I'm with you, in that I can't figure it out, either. It was really insensitive of Tolkien to name his books after (...) (23 years ago, 7-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Vote against/for...
 
(...) Yikes! Lets just throw in a "Sich heil" for fun too. (...) Freest? What do you mean freest, shouldn't that be simply free. Why are there limitations placed on freedom. Granted as mind bogglingly naive as your rant is, you have the right to (...) (23 years ago, 7-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: A word to the international community... (Re: Vote against/for...)
 
(...) Well, he can assert that a majority of the estimated 39% of eligible voters chose to vote Republican, and beyond that he's welcome to believe whatever else he likes, of course. But I think he'd come across as less of a stereotypically boorish, (...) (23 years ago, 6-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: A word to the international community... (Re: Vote against/for...)
 
(...) John, John -- wake up! You're talking in your sleep and some of us can still hear you... Increasingly we have more in common with socialism and/or communism than we do with a free democratic republic, or hadn't you noticed? THE 10 PLANKS OF (...) (23 years ago, 6-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: A word to the international community... (Re: Vote against/for...)
 
(...) Your demagoguery and paranoia aside, let's take a wait-and-see attitude rather than engage in pointless inflammatory rhetoeric. I am just so tired of Americans apologizing for the US-- it is mad that I would have anything for which to be sorry (...) (23 years ago, 6-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Vote against/for...
 
(...) Well, maybe not as free as you might think... (URL) (who happens to be from the Netjerlands...) (23 years ago, 6-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Vote against/for...
 
(...) Dave, I am just curious, is your perspective that on a non-US citizen? Maybe you made clear where you're from in an earlier post, but in this context I just wasn't sure. Assuming you are from elsewhere, I certainly hope you do not think that (...) (23 years ago, 6-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: A word to the international community... (Re: Vote against/for...)
 
(...) I'll help you with the lego :) It's the zealous nationalism which blinds people to fixing the issues. I'm a nationalist--I love being Canadian. As such, I believe in a 'just war' scenario--that is, I would pick up a gun and join the armed (...) (23 years ago, 6-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Vote against/for...
 
(...) None of us is blessed with omniescence, of course, as far as I can tell. And we're all limited by our horizons, and our companions. But I'm on a mountaintop with Thomas Jefferson, while you're down in a hog wallow with John Ashcroft, so I'm (...) (23 years ago, 6-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: A word to the international community... (Re: Vote against/for...)
 
(...) In fairness to John, doesn't he have EVERY right to believe his views have been co-signed by the american people? Either by positive act or by apathy, the future has been written. And yes, I do think it may be time to move to a country whose (...) (23 years ago, 6-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Vote against/for...
 
Lemme see, how can I put this in the most polite terms possible? O, I know -- self-censorship! Hey John: Shut the **** up! -- Hop-Frog (23 years ago, 6-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  A word to the international community... (Re: Vote against/for...)
 
(...) Although John may speak for the soon-to-be-installed right-wing overzealous militaristic hegemonic self-righteous theocracy, his wildly nationalistic statements should not be construed as anything like mainstream American thought, but they can (...) (23 years ago, 6-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Vote against/for...
 
(...) The world needs to come to terms with the simple fact that the US *IS MIGHTIER THAN THOU* It's not pretentious, merely fact. Be thankful that the US also happens to be the greatest power ever to have existed on the face of the earth AND shows (...) (23 years ago, 6-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Vote against/for...
 
(...) As far as you know, which isn't far. -John (23 years ago, 6-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Vote against/for...
 
(...) Actually, Ken Krawchuk had a not-terrible showing in the PA gubernatorial race, pulling an estimated 6,652 votes versus (Green) Morrill's 4,952, and Krawchuk had at least *some* name recognition leading up to the election. The four main (...) (23 years ago, 6-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Vote against/for...
 
(...) Ya "Most", Dave! Was gonna say "all" but hey, you know how it is, Dave! And if you've got a problem with that, you know where to go, Dave! :-) ++Lar (23 years ago, 6-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Vote against/for...
 
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, John Neal writes: <snip> (...) <snip> (...) How 'bout the US get off it's pretentious 'Mighter than thou so we can do as we please' high horse and smell the roses (or the toxic exhaust fumes from rampant consumerism) (...) (23 years ago, 6-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Vote against/for...
 
(...) "Most?" Dave! (23 years ago, 6-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Vote against/for...
 
(...) Since Libertarians didn't sweep to stunning victories in most of their races, I'm not sure I agree. Like I said elsewhere, I fear for the country. Having the House, Senate and White House all controlled by the same party (either one of the (...) (23 years ago, 6-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Vote against/for...
 
(...) Sometimes we have no choice. (...) How about the world showing the US a little respect first. (...) Who would support this? (...) Who wouldn't vote for this? (...) I think America did that. -John (23 years ago, 6-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Conspiracy! (was Re: Shocked, just Shocked etc.)
 
I am just hijacking the thread in service to my own nefarious purposes.... MUAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAH...AHAHAHA!!! Anyway, I was reading some Gore Vidal related stuff on the Observer UK site and realized that we must be missing some pretty wild stuff. (...) (23 years ago, 6-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Shocked, just Shocked to learn that .... The Beeb is not always right.
 
(...) I don't understand why the chief executive officer has any business whatsoever in campaigning for members of the Legislative branch--isn't that a direct conflict of interest? I don't condemn Bush uniquely for this, although he's been a more (...) (23 years ago, 6-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Shocked, just Shocked to learn that .... The Beeb is not always right.
 
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Larry Pieniazek writes: <snip> (...) Shocked!! Shocked, I say, to find out that there's gambling in this here establishment!! This time, the gambling could escalate into very bad things for my neighbours to the south, as (...) (23 years ago, 6-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Party Funding
 
(...) Democracy is a funny thing sometimes. Thankfully we have limits on what parties can spend. Scott A (23 years ago, 6-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Shocked, just Shocked to learn that .... The Beeb is not always right.
 
Given the inaccuracy of this counterfactual assertion: "Mr Mondale had taken over the seat previously held by incumbent Senator Paul Wellstone, who died in a recent plane crash." (1) (from: (URL) is not particularly difficult to disagree with this (...) (23 years ago, 6-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Vote against/for...
 
(...) Warning--Spoonerisms: (URL) (23 years ago, 6-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Amnesty International: Israel involved in "grave breaches" of international law
 
(...) It is a little jarring - letting Sharon [a war criminal] enforce "justice" is crazy. I don't think the *current* Israeli government can be trusted to act on human rights abuses. I’m not alone: Amnesty calls for arrest of Israelis for war (...) (23 years ago, 5-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Vote against/for...
 
Vote against... ...war. ...continued international power-grabs. ...corporate welfare. ...bad corporate accounting practices. Vote for... ...peace. ...concern over the national economy. ...a rational fiscal policy. ...corporate accountability. Today (...) (23 years ago, 5-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Human Rights Watch: Suicide bombers 'war criminals'
 
(URL) think my favorite quote was this one: "The report also included recommendations for the Israeli government, including the suggestion that its military not target Palestinian Security Services in reprisal for suicide attacks -- instead arguing (...) (23 years ago, 2-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Encouraging news from the War on Terrorism
 
(...) Aw, shucks! Well, I'll harp on that string until it breaks. The Portland story was news to me, but I was struck by its resonance with the Pittsburgh episode. I wonder how many other such incidents are out there. (...) I prefer my clowns to be (...) (23 years ago, 1-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Encouraging news from the War on Terrorism
 
Dave! Dave! Dave! Is it getting so lonely in here that you have to rehash all of this old news? tsk, tsk... Dude, we still love you! And as to that Bush thing... Everybody loves a ******* clown! -- Hop-Frog (23 years ago, 1-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Encouraging news from the War on Terrorism
 
(URL) nice. By that same logic I imagine that, since Bush isn't really the President, he couldn't ever really be impeached, right? In the spirit of wrongful detention, I'd like to cite an incident clearly illustrating the right to free speech as it (...) (23 years ago, 1-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: The Death of Paul Wellstone
 
(...) Actually, Minnesota state law allows them to do this up to 4 days before the election. Problem is the absentee voters who are voting for a *Democratic* senate seat are going to be disenfranchised because votes for Wellstone will not legally go (...) (23 years ago, 25-Oct-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: The Death of Paul Wellstone
 
(...) The Toricelli decision will embolden the Democratic-Farmer-Labor party to put in whoever they think is most electable, no doubt. I'm saddened too. Especially since it happened in a light plane. (23 years ago, 25-Oct-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: The Death of Paul Wellstone
 
(...) I curious as to the ramifications of his death. Will the Democrats try and elect another dead man? Since Wellstone's wife died in the crash as well, you can't have her serve as happened in the extremely bizarre election of the dead senator Mel (...) (23 years ago, 25-Oct-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: The Death of Paul Wellstone
 
(...) Or enforced. I don't want to make light of this event, but I am curious what the conspiracy theorists will dream up for this one. -Kyle (23 years ago, 25-Oct-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  The Death of Paul Wellstone
 
Although I disagreed with virtually everything this man stood for, I am saddened and shocked upon learning of his untimely and tragic death. My thoughts and prayers go out to his surviving daughters and family. It seems his promise that he wouldn't (...) (23 years ago, 25-Oct-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Good [Sniper] Quote
 
(...) Maybe the Washington Sniper should be refered to as the "Washington shooter at unexpecting people from a hiding place" to protect the good name of 'sniper'? ;-) Cheers Richie (23 years ago, 24-Oct-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)


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