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Sat, 21 Aug 1999 19:59:04 GMT
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They compromised their artistic integrity for $$$. I think *they* would
perceive themselves as "artists", and not merely capitalists. An artist
works to express him/herself, not to make money (starving artist idea). The
more an artist produces what the people want, the more they are selling out
and the more pablum they produce. They should get rich *because* people like
their art, not make art people like *to* get rich. Big difference.
-John
Jesse Long wrote:
> > Can you clarify your thesis, please? Are you saying that these
> > filmmakers should not have ended their films they way they wanted to,
> > but instead the way you think they should have ended? Why? If not, what
> > are you saying?
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> I'm saying that the masses prompted the movie makers in these two cases to
> dumb down their movies and lower the quality because they didn't like the
> endings.
>
> Jesse
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| (...) On the other hand, some artists create art to evoke particular responses from their audience. If the desired response isn't forthcoming, it's a poor artist that blames the audience. A good artist will revise the piece until it works as (...) (25 years ago, 22-Aug-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| John Neal wrote in message <37BF0506.AE7F8075@u...st.net>... (...) The (...) like (...) I guess there is an art in getting rich, too. George Lucas seems to have it down pat. If the guy wants to make money (most people in Hollywood (or anywhere else) (...) (25 years ago, 22-Aug-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| Larry Pieniazek <lar@voyager.net> wrote in message news:37BBD004.F53CFD...ger.net... (...) I'm saying that the masses prompted the movie makers in these two cases to dumb down their movies and lower the quality because they didn't like the endings. (...) (25 years ago, 21-Aug-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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