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Sun, 22 Aug 1999 01:33:03 GMT
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Steve Jacquot wrote:
> John Neal wrote:
> >
> > They compromised their artistic integrity for $$$. I think *they* would
> > perceive themselves as "artists", and not merely capitalists. An artist
> > works to express him/herself, not to make money (starving artist idea). The
> > more an artist produces what the people want, the more they are selling out
> > and the more pablum they produce. They should get rich *because* people like
> > their art, not make art people like *to* get rich. Big difference.
>
> On the other hand, some artists create art to evoke particular responses
> from their audience.
Is it possible to evoke *a* particular response? Unless the response you want is
for people to give you money for your work.
> If the desired response isn't forthcoming, it's a
> poor artist that blames the audience. A good artist will revise the
> piece
> until it works as intended.
A good artist IMHO works independently of his audience. Pop artists might be a
different story.
-John
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>
> --
> Steve Jacquot
> sj5w@virginia.edu
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