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(...) LOL, is anyone an admin of brickshelf? of course not, but I believe there should be. We need some people to weed out all the junk that gets posted on there. Now, whether these avatars are considered junk or not is up to Kevin. (...) I love (...) (23 years ago, 6-Jan-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I thought Kevin was an admin of brickshelf, other than that I have no idea. (...) lol, so do I. Land of Lakes medium chedder to be exact `,D (...) So would I, I just found it ironic that he was talking trash about bionice (as well as the (...) (23 years ago, 6-Jan-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Kevin is the Owner, Maintainer, and Administrator of Brickshelf. (...) Why is that Ironic? One doesn't have to like something to make money on it. Fads are notorious for being big money makers for a short period of time. Jon obviously feels (...) (23 years ago, 6-Jan-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Ouch, is that how you treat everything you do not like? Tell me, what product line of Lego do you like... lets trash that, as well as your work for awhile - ok?? Thats what you are doing here.... (...) If it is still there, then it is not (...) (23 years ago, 6-Jan-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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It seems that I might be stepping into a personality conflict between these two that pre-exists this discussion. Is that the case? (...) Too many capitalized words will dilute your point...whatever it was. (...) You go on to discuss how one makes (...) (23 years ago, 6-Jan-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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"tom" <tinosanto@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:GpIFL7.MEB@lugnet.com... (...) view. Quality MOCs are being overtaken on Brickshelf because of the avatars. They're not permanently hidden, but they're pushed out of the way (and hidden from view (...) (23 years ago, 6-Jan-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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A technical argument against avatars could be made on bandwidth grounds. In fact, this is the argument bioniclezone.com itself gives against hosting avatars there directly. They can't afford the bandwidth that these avatars (which appear on every (...) (23 years ago, 6-Jan-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) It's not a problem, it is a choice. The free sites offer their service without stipulation for people to use. Brickshelf is there for all Lego aficionados. **Warning*** I am going off an a tangent- Lugnet has virtually ignored Bionicle fans. (...) (23 years ago, 6-Jan-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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<massive snip> Even though I think that the avatars are a waste and should some how be limited on Brickshelf, your post made a lot of sense. I agree completely with you on the points you made. But still, I do think that there needs to be a limit on (...) (23 years ago, 6-Jan-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Um, no. The owner of BZ said he could not afford to continue hosting them and that avatars were high bandwidth. He called it a problem, in so many words. So it is a problem for someone. (...) As long as Kevin can *afford* it to be. It's not a (...) (23 years ago, 6-Jan-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Five is a blatant series? Jude (23 years ago, 6-Jan-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) giving (...) Do you seriously think young kids at 8-16 years willing to donate for something that is free? I don't think so. Bionicle is LEGO, and Brickshelf is a hosting site for LEGO Images, and its not making any money what so ever. (...) (23 years ago, 6-Jan-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I did. I knew other kids who did. My seven year old son is keen to pay his fair share for things (if he happens to have cash). (...) I might be the only one, but I don't get the sense of what you wrote here. (...) And? Chris (23 years ago, 6-Jan-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) When the Brickshelf gallery first opened several people were given admin access (mainly just being content cops). The major (possibly only) rule for filtering brickshelf was non-lego related pictures were not allowed. I only deleted pics a few (...) (23 years ago, 6-Jan-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Yea, just look at the history of "serious" model railroading. Weren't there even some complaints about kits back in the beginning. There sure were a lot of complaints about the RTR (ready to run [out of the box]) models. Bachman's come a long (...) (23 years ago, 6-Jan-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) My question here would be whether folks would forget to check that the upload is significant on the one hand, and if folks would mark their avatars and other relatively non-interesting pictures as significant? Has anything ever happened with (...) (23 years ago, 6-Jan-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.publish)
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(...) Um, yes. The version of BZ that we are running now never hosted avatars. We offer standard avatars for all users to use, and if they want to use a custom avatar, then they have to find an external pic hosting site. Even members who pay do not (...) (23 years ago, 6-Jan-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I can only imagine you are confusing my opinion on avatar images (and I include all avatar images, not just Bionicle ones) with my opinion on Bionicle MOCs. I have not bashed any Lego line in this thread, nor have I bashed any MOCs. Whether I (...) (23 years ago, 6-Jan-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Sure. Many have, many do, and many will. (...) Actually, I believe Kevin has given some leeway in what is "of general interest to the fan community," i.e. one or two pictures of yourself are acceptable. I could see him allowing one or two (...) (23 years ago, 6-Jan-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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"Rich Manzo" <Brickfan25@aol.com> wrote in message news:GpJ82H.HzC@lugnet.com... (...) Certainly does, if the avatars are the things flooding the server. Which, by several peoples' opinions here they are. (...) and (...) Now that's a legitimate (...) (23 years ago, 6-Jan-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I was unaware you were appointed to determine what is quality moc's and what had a right to be on brickshelf.. And there is not an overwhelming amount of these images, thats just you stretching the facts to gan points for you. (...) Agreed, (...) (23 years ago, 6-Jan-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Your evidence? (...) So would I, but these lego images are not abouse of anything. They are lego-related. If you are truly concerned about people blatantly abusing the TOS then go after the non-lego images, espically the ones that are 100kb+ (...) (23 years ago, 6-Jan-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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"tom" <tinosanto@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:GpJGnr.Ky4@lugnet.com... (...) news:GpIFL7.MEB@lugnet.com... (...) these (...) what (...) of (...) When did I say they didn't have a right to be on Brickshelf because of that? I was unaware I was (...) (23 years ago, 6-Jan-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Unfornently, NO, it's NOT! I don't know about you, but I prefer to hit that button once maybe twice to catch up on what I've missed. Now though, I find myself hitting the button 5 or 6 times. Granted that isn't a lot, but it all becomes very (...) (23 years ago, 6-Jan-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Tim certainly can determine what he thinks is a quality MOC. He could have dropped the word "quality" and it would have been valid. (...) You're right, Tim doesn't have the right to determine what is allowed on Brickshelf. He DOES, however, (...) (23 years ago, 7-Jan-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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<snipped alot of old convo> (...) Maybe to you, but does that mean it is valid in my eyes? Not saying it does not, but does it mean it applies across the board? No. (...) Yes he does, as do you. I never said you do not have that right. Can you show (...) (23 years ago, 7-Jan-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Calling us immature and telling us to "grow up" doesn't insinuate that you believe we have no right? Fine by me, believe what you will, but don't lie about it. (...) Too bad, you keep saying the same thing over and over. Obviously we don't see (...) (23 years ago, 7-Jan-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I find that your statements to the effect that Jon is immature for suggesting it means you feel he is NOT within his rights. (...) You're not getting the point. We want a change in TOS. We realize they do belong, we want that to change. (...) (23 years ago, 7-Jan-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Ouch! I had not heard that particular turn of phrase before and the vision it brings me is *not* a pain free one in any way shape or form. That is the only reason I set XFUT to .fun... to share that vision with y'all. If you feel like (...) (23 years ago, 7-Jan-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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"Larry Pieniazek" <lpieniazek@mercator.com> wrote in message news:GpJzGt.3DJ@lugnet.com... (...) the (...) Are you saying you haven't heard the expression before period? I grew up with it myself. Translated 'la de frikkin da' or 'whoop de doo for (...) (23 years ago, 7-Jan-02, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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(...) Yes. Had never heard that particular one before. Period. Full stop. (...) Sounds like you had some family issues, either that or you put on a lot of airs... <grin, duck, run> (...) Oh, I grokked it, I just thought it picturesque speech... (...) (23 years ago, 7-Jan-02, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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"Larry Pieniazek" <lpieniazek@mercator.com> wrote in message news:GpK0LK.6FL@lugnet.com... (...) LOL. I think the pain of pinning the rose on one's nose would override the temporary odor relief the sweet smell of the rose would provide. ;-) (...) (...) (23 years ago, 7-Jan-02, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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"Tim Courtney" <tim@zacktron.com> wrote in message news:GpJJ4K.5Du@lugnet.com... (...) Tim, your efforts in attempting to reply to _every_ single statement that "tom" makes have earned you the title of Tireless Rebutter: (URL) go to bed. Or to (...) (23 years ago, 7-Jan-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) (URL) I think it's discontinued, based on two items: - no longer linked from the front page - my last donation isn't recorded in there ($25 on 2001-09-25) I wonder why it's no longer linked to, has Kevin entered a situation where he no longer (...) (23 years ago, 7-Jan-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Replying to myself... This was perhaps an issue best left to an email to Kevin, which I have now sent. My apologies, Kevin, I didn't want to sound negative or cast any bad light on Brickshelf -- I think you're doing a great job! Cheers, - (...) (23 years ago, 7-Jan-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Funny, but using the same criteria, I could say I'm tired of all the same, boring castle creations that keep flooding BS. It doesn't mean I'm right, but I could say it. It's all a matter of opinion. -Dave (23 years ago, 7-Jan-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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