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  The PATRIOT act is a fine law!
 
and you'll never catch me saying anything different! Not any more! (URL) found that via nosing around on the site after finding THIS link (about writing mistakes, totally unrelated but also good): (URL) via a webcomic! I love the internet! ) (20 years ago, 1-Dec-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Wading in...
 
(...) Greenspan's touch only comes in concert with an administration willing to listen to his advice. He's been Chairman of the Fed since the tail end of Reagan. Daddy Bush refused to heed Greenspan's warnings creating the economic recession of (...) (20 years ago, 30-Nov-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: A Small Rant About Word Usage
 
(...) Perhaps it's the word order that's causing you grief. What if you said, "I call for the ouster of the CEO." No, that's the same, isn't it? Eclectic English and its scrambled semantics! :) Regardless, the definition does seem to be accurate, (...) (20 years ago, 30-Nov-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.off-topic.fun)
 
  Re: Bird Processors (was Re: Rolling Blackouts)
 
My understanding is that wind turbines do not pose a problem to “local” birds. However, migrating birds can fall ‘fowl’ (pun intended) of them when visibility is low. Scott A (...) (20 years ago, 29-Nov-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  A Small Rant About Word Usage
 
Am I the only annoyed by the use of the word "ouster". The definition of this word make no sense when compared to other words with the "-er" suffix. To me the only usage of this word should be in referring to "someone in the process of ousting or (...) (20 years ago, 29-Nov-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: to LEGO factory : You are not being fair.
 
In lugnet.off-topic.fun, Ed Andrews wrote: (snip) This is off topic for .fun. It is very clearly .debate fodder. FUT has been set there, and your post forceFut as well. ++Lar (don't make me put my admin hat on explicitly please...) (20 years ago, 29-Nov-04, to lugnet.off-topic.fun, lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Bird Processors (was Re: Rolling Blackouts)
 
(...) Well, Dave, I don't exactly have the data, but here's an encouraging report, if true: (URL) (20 years ago, 26-Nov-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Ten cheers for Jake
 
Hello! (...) The issue is not the F-word itself in my as always more than humble opinion. It is just one syllable composed of three phonemes (the sounds /f/, /A/ and /k/) when you speak it out loud, using four graphemes (the letters 'f', 'u', 'c' (...) (20 years ago, 21-Nov-04, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Far too good to pass up...
 
(...) Here on the Wet Coast of Canada, it's a lot warmer than many parts of the US. It is, however, Wet. There was more water than air above ground level today, I swear. "liquid sunshine", they call it :-) Kevin (20 years ago, 19-Nov-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Far too good to pass up...
 
(...) Shows what I know. I thought it meant "Church of the Yellow Horse." Dave! (20 years ago, 16-Nov-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Far too good to pass up...
 
(...) I'm sure my 13 year old son will appreciate that. :-) (...) How do I get a tan with the top down if I'm wearing a coat? (...) Idiomatically, "Check out the babes." If you want Babelfish, "Seek the girls." (...) I've got that here, south to (...) (20 years ago, 16-Nov-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Far too good to pass up...
 
(...) But we leave in the profanity, and nudity, that has to count for something???? (...) We sell coats. (...) Can I have a translation please? (...) Apparently no hockey either!! (...) We sell winter boots. (...) Okay, I'm a Canuck and I don't (...) (20 years ago, 15-Nov-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Far too good to pass up...
 
(...) I'd like to the United States of the Left Coast secede and take our world's fifth largest economy with us so that we won't continue to be tax donors to the Deadbeat States that voted for Dubya. Better dead than "red". ;-) -->Bruce<-- (20 years ago, 15-Nov-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Far too good to pass up...
 
(...) On the plus side: 1. No Dubya. 2. Real health care, rather than health care if Walmart is forced into providing it (which it won't be). Can't be any worse than Kaiser Permanente. 3. No expensive moronic war to save us from non-threats. 4. No (...) (20 years ago, 15-Nov-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Far too good to pass up...
 
(...) I don't think he was planning on making room for you, just your lego! (20 years ago, 15-Nov-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Far too good to pass up...
 
(...) Can we have the entirety of the Northeast secede from the Union and be the next Candian province? Think if we had a 2nd civl war, we'd win again? Eh, who am I kidding, we pansies on the Left have nobody lining up to fight :) (...) Well, that (...) (20 years ago, 15-Nov-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Far too good to pass up...
 
"Keep, ancient lands, your storied pomp!" cries she With silent lips. "Give me your tired, your poor, Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, The wretched refuse of your teeming shore. Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me. I lift my (...) (20 years ago, 15-Nov-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Wading in...
 
(...) HEY!!!! No wandering on-topic in here please! (...) people running out of credit. Better start paying off all those cards now!! But seriously, to me it seems it's just another rotation of the fortunes wheel - sure lots of Americans will go (...) (20 years ago, 14-Nov-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Wading in...
 
to the debate forum where I usually don't contribute very much. I just read this piece in the online Yahoo edition of the LA Times. To say that I am concerned is putting it mildly. There is probably little that I can do personally, but if the dollar (...) (20 years ago, 14-Nov-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Victories for smokefree ballot initiatives
 
(...) What, and deprive future generations the ability to see what a Great Job™ he did??? ROSCO (20 years ago, 12-Nov-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Victories for smokefree ballot initiatives
 
(...) Hey, we wouldn't be paranoid if the rest of the world didn't hate Freedom™ and Democracy™ so much. And only 51% of the population confirmed that idiot for the Whitehouse. If I'd had my way, not only would he be fired from the job, but his (...) (20 years ago, 12-Nov-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Victories for smokefree ballot initiatives
 
(...) All I ask about tobacco companies are that the people responsible for hiding cigarettes toxicity and increasing their addictive elements are held personally responsible for their deceptions (i.e. thrown in jail forever and fined so much that (...) (20 years ago, 11-Nov-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Victories for smokefree ballot initiatives
 
(...) Ouch! For me, I'm very libertarian where smoking is concerned--Hey, you're hurting yourself if you smoke--if you want to play Russian Roulette with the cigarettes (1), all the power to ya! THis gets into a very big 'gray' area where my tax (...) (20 years ago, 11-Nov-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Victories for smokefree ballot initiatives
 
(...) I await the day when the concept of smoking american guns all around the world is only remembered in the history books. with a paranoid nation which has just confirmed its paranoic government it's not likely to happen in my lifetime, though. (...) (20 years ago, 11-Nov-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Whew! That's a relief
 
(...) Yeah, and major combat ended in May last year, (URL) apparently>. ROSCO (20 years ago, 11-Nov-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Whew! That's a relief
 
We're all safe at (URL) last:> "The objective of securing the safety of Americans from crime and terror has been achieved." Funny. The way I hear it, we're all in constant and permanent danger of being killed by terrorists at every single moment. (...) (20 years ago, 10-Nov-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Victories for smokefree ballot initiatives
 
(...) Just thought of this one: I think your basis for saying that these establishments should ban smoking is for the employees, not the customers. Basically that if the employees were, say, robots, that it would be ok to have bars that allowed (...) (20 years ago, 10-Nov-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Victories for smokefree ballot initiatives
 
(...) They're open to the public. We aren't talking about esatblishments that close their doors to people walking in. Nontheless, I don't sense we can agree on this issue, as we take a fundamentally different approach towards individual rights. (...) (20 years ago, 10-Nov-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Victories for smokefree ballot initiatives
 
(...) Where? You have no right to breathe ANY air (clean OR dirty) when on my property, unless I grant it. And conversely I have no right to emit smoke on your property, unless you grant it. Therefore when you're on my property, you will breathe the (...) (20 years ago, 10-Nov-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Victories for smokefree ballot initiatives
 
(...) The right to breathe clean air is inherently superior to the right to subject others to the byproduct of your pleasure. -Tim (20 years ago, 10-Nov-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Victories for smokefree ballot initiatives
 
(...) Even if it violates people's rights? (20 years ago, 10-Nov-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Victories for smokefree ballot initiatives
 
(...) I await the day when the concept of smoking is only remembered in the history books. Not likely to happen in my lifetime, though. In the mean time, whatever I can do to clear the air, making it safer for me and others, I'll do. -Tim (20 years ago, 10-Nov-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  IN Transportation Finance Authority to bail out already bankrupt ATA
 
(URL) that the IN TFA is not even supposed to be making loans so they engaged in chicanery to get it done. How is this appropriate? Government should not be favoring one business entity over another. Let bankruptcy function as it is supposed to. (20 years ago, 9-Nov-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  (US) Social Security Reform
 
From Cato: ' Social Security is likely to be a major issue in a second Bush term. "President Bush has shown that he is willing to expend his political capital in pursuit of a higher goal," said Michael Tanner, director of Cato's Project on Social (...) (20 years ago, 8-Nov-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Victories for smokefree ballot initiatives
 
(...) Kind of a tricky line to walk. I mean, getting a job as a stunt man you're subjected to physical danger and harm. Working as a stripper will almost guarantee what (in other industries) would easily be construed as sexual harassment from (...) (20 years ago, 8-Nov-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Clark County, Ohio
 
(...) Well if you're looking for plausible deniability so it's not YOUR fault, it's always better to pick the victim whose alibi is harder to check. :-) The Guardian is foreign but Ohio is larger. You'll have to do a risk assessment yourself on (...) (20 years ago, 5-Nov-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Clark County, Ohio
 
(...) So....I should cancel those bumper stickers that say "Don't blame me, it's Ohio's fault", and change them to "Don't blame me, it's the Guardian's fault"? :-) -->Bruce<-- (20 years ago, 5-Nov-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Victories for smokefree ballot initiatives
 
(...) So you would oppose mandatory non smoking areas as a way to lessen health risks to restaurant workers, then? (...) I agree. Are restaurants and bars public places, though? I would argue not. (...) Has this been adequately demonstrated? If it (...) (20 years ago, 5-Nov-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Clark County, Ohio
 
(...) This apparently came to pass. According to an article in today's USA Today, (URL) County was the only county in Ohio that voted Democratic in 2000 that went Republican in 2004 (certainly other county vote totals shifted in the GOP direction, (...) (20 years ago, 5-Nov-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Personality test vs. Religion
 
(...) Heh, phew! (...) Awesome! That's what I was looking for. That although you may not accept the CURRENT data you've seen as accurate, that you WOULD be willing to accept data, even though it runs at least SOME risk of being subjective, that (...) (20 years ago, 4-Nov-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)


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