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(...) Well you have identified yourself "Half-Irish". Why is it a problem for me to remind you of that? Scott A (20 years ago, 2-Jun-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I thought the pasta-loving Vin was only shot once? (...) Talking of snipers, I love the scenes in SPR where our heroes tramp across open fields and cross the crests of hills as they are too brave to use cover! Scott A (20 years ago, 2-Jun-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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I think in FMJ, 8-Ball is shot in the leg. (...) John, your blind support for Israel, despite the "facts on the ground", is rather unsophisticated. In this group I have already shown you how Israel is a belligerent power which is currently led by an (...) (20 years ago, 2-Jun-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Cool story Dave! But unless the photo has been reversed on that page, the contributor Rob Kirkwood doesn't know port from starboard ;) ROSCO (20 years ago, 1-Jun-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) It was meant to hide his real identity, and thus disguise the fate of Captain Miller. Not all flashbacks are necessarily that of the character in question, though it may be regarded as a sneaky bit of story-telling subtrafuge and implied (...) (20 years ago, 1-Jun-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) If the character was "passing for Italian (descent)" the film probably would have made a point of it. I just think you are making a mistake in presuming that since Vin Diesal is black/part-black, that he is only going to play a character that (...) (20 years ago, 1-Jun-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Moving, but also problematic. The camera zooms in on the Elder Ryan's tear-filled eyes as he meditates over the graves of his comrades. The film then immediately jumps, flashback-style, to Miller in the landing craft and proceeds from there. (...) (20 years ago, 1-Jun-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) That depends on what relevance one attaches to the character’s name alone. (...) I'm happy to admit to not having watched the film enough to know the character's name. I'm happy to admit to not knowing what typical African-American surnames (...) (20 years ago, 1-Jun-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Tell that to the dead women and children on both sides. (...) "Civilized nations" do not continue (or start) a war when there is a non-violent alternative. Scott A (...) (20 years ago, 1-Jun-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Actually, I'd cite WWI as a great example of what Ross was getting at: Peace cannot be kept by force; it can only be achieved by understanding. The key word you are missing is "kept". If there ever was a lack of understanding destined not to (...) (20 years ago, 1-Jun-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) First, Israel's restraint has perpetuated the conflict with the Palestinians. The conflict could have easily been ended as far back as in 1967 after the victory in the 6 Day War. WWI is a classic example illustrating my point. There was no (...) (20 years ago, 1-Jun-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Not sure if this is fitting in .debate, but I have a cool story on this subject: I worked in a hobby store for a few years in the late 90's, and we sold a fair range of plastic military models and detailing handbooks. There were a few (...) (20 years ago, 1-Jun-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) But an utterly non-relevant one! :-) (...) Don't wanna admit that you identified the character as black incorrectly, eh? :-) (...) Right there earlier in the sequence quoted above! (...) But never by the phrase "Irish-American". And I believe (...) (20 years ago, 1-Jun-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) How would 40's America have viewed him. (A genuine question). (...) You mean like your name implies your Irishness? ;) (...) Did I? I'll take your word for it... you certainly have noted your Irishness a few times. (...) I'm not about to watch (...) (20 years ago, 1-Jun-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(URL) This> amused me: Letter C: Chalabi. The leader of the Iraq National Congress, who is a member of the Iraq Governing Council, is now accused of having duped the Bush administration, as well as the media, into believing that Saddam Hussein (...) (20 years ago, 1-Jun-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Sure--just like Blue Velvet. Dave! (20 years ago, 1-Jun-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) I think you need to make up your mind whether he is black or a "USP", which would imply you should have known to check the character's name. :-O And clearly you haven't seen his movies (which may be a blessing) in regards to the accusations (...) (20 years ago, 1-Jun-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Man, this is just embarrassing. I did *not* note the mill sign. Maybe if they'd referred to basis points, it would have gotten through my skull. But probably not. I'm reminded of (URL) an admission I made long ago> in one of our many (...) (20 years ago, 1-Jun-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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Bush: "America is safer, two terror regimes are gone forever and more than 50 million souls now live in freedom." Dr Mahmoud Othman (IGC Member): "It's like being in a dictatorship again" Amnesty International: "Sacrificing human rights in the name (...) (20 years ago, 1-Jun-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Unique Selling Point. I understand he ticks all the correct ethnic minority boxes in one swoop. This means there is no need for other minorities to have a token presence in a movie, thus allowing more room for white guys! (...) I knew fine (...) (20 years ago, 1-Jun-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Now I know why 10 gallon hats are so small. ;) Scott A (Who thought {everything} was bigger in the USA) (20 years ago, 1-Jun-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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n_okla@hotmail.com (Neb Okla) wrote in <HyFsM8.vAx@lugnet.com>: (...) Actually, both are correct. 1 US gallon is 3.785 litres, 1 UK gallon is 4.545 litres. One more reason to go metric. (20 years ago, 1-Jun-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Flung about willy-nilly? Snafu was the order of the day, and it was up the skill, intelligence, and daring of those involved to make order out of chaos. (...) I can't say that I recall one way or the other, but I presume that they would be (...) (20 years ago, 31-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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Hope everyone is enjoying World No Tobacco Day. Here are a couple links for those interested: World No Tobacco Day (URL) the fight for smokefree air (URL) (20 years ago, 31-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Yeah, the peace that came from force in the Soviet union for approximately 40ish years. That worked real well. Dave K (20 years ago, 31-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) I think "randomly dropped” would be a better descriptor. ;) (...) The landing craft's pilot would probably have been a Brit. (...) I see your point, perhaps I was just been overly cautious of the movie industry re-writing history. As an aside, (...) (20 years ago, 31-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) You mean like in Israel/Palestine? Or do you mean like in WW1? Scott A (...) (20 years ago, 31-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) But it is achieved by force. JOHN (20 years ago, 31-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) The folks that 'whooped it up' should be ashamed of themselves. I read it as 'scoring political points' by showing avid support for Dubya, instead of being, as Scott said, 'reflective', with thoughts of the past and those that sacrificed (...) (20 years ago, 31-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I managed to catch the start of a dedication ceremony for your WW2 war memorial on Saturday evening. The whoops which greeted Bush, on what I expected to be a reflective event, forced me to switch channel... It may be a cultural thing, but I (...) (20 years ago, 31-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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I found this an interesting read. I think it's fairly well known elsewhere on the web but I'd not seen it before. (URL) will take you some time to read, because a lot of the material is presented in small bites, to make you think. So wait for (...) (20 years ago, 31-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) "Peace cannot be kept by force; it can only be achieved by understanding." Albert Einstein (20 years ago, 30-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Again, this isn't new; it existed with Clinton, too, though the positions were often reversed, and I'd argue that there was much more "yeah, he's a slimeball sex fiend" admission on the Left during the Lewinsky matter than there is acceptance (...) (20 years ago, 30-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Well, if they were sacrificed, then by whom to whom? (...) You know, pro-Bush folk would probably be a lot less "rah-rah" if the Left weren't so virulently hateful of Bush as a person, much less as a politician. JOHN (20 years ago, 30-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) You were complaining about D-Day. As I said, the D-Day sequence is all of 20 minutes of the film. The rest is a squad searching for an american paratrooper which were generally dropped behind the american beaches. (...) Were they with the (...) (20 years ago, 30-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Actually, in this case, you're wrong and (shudder), Scott is right. This is NOT semantics. "Made sacrifices" pertains to the Iraqi people as a whole. "Were sacrificed" pertains to the ones actually killed. HUGE difference, don't try to pave it (...) (20 years ago, 30-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Not without the Holy hand grenade of Antioch I won't! (...) Bummer. It seems to have disappeared from the LEGO web site:-( I have a little test of character, Don, and you passed the first one: 1. Must have love and appreciation of the work of (...) (20 years ago, 30-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Well, if you're gonna play hit the bunny. I'd play with (URL) this one>. "That's the most foul, cruel, and bad-tempered rodent you ever set eyes on!" Now where's that monty python lego movie... Have fun, Don (20 years ago, 30-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) ZING! Good one, Don! :-) Too bad the set doesn't come with the (URL) so that the boy could hit it with the stick. On second thought, that might "hit" too close to home;-) JOHN (hehe..., a troll:-) (20 years ago, 29-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) [snip] Holy Cow! I'm finally getting through. Yes! That's what I've been trying to tell you. Take a break from .debate. Grab a toy and start some role playing. You'll feel much better. Let me recommend this one. (URL) comes with a pumpkin, a (...) (20 years ago, 29-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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