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  Free Speech, again
 
(URL) I am as big a proponent of free speech as anyone I know, but I don't accept that corporations are citizens protected under the first amendment. Ditto any corporate executive or agent speaking on behalf of the corporation; the speech of *the (...) (22 years ago, 23-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: The U.S. Economy: The Thousand Yard Stare Through the Years
 
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Thomas Stangl writes: <snip> (...) I took it as a wonderful reference to a "Calvin and Hobbes" comic strip myself... But then, almost anything can be "Kevin Baconed" back to "Calvin and Hobbes". Dave K (...) (22 years ago, 23-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: The U.S. Economy: The Thousand Yard Stare Through the Years
 
<jump, jump> ;-) Froggy, Others may not have the time to visit all the links you post. You posted decent excerpts this time, but even then, some may visit the first link, read it through, and extrapolate that they don't have enough time to finish (...) (22 years ago, 23-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: The U.S. Economy: The Thousand Yard Stare Through the Years
 
(...) Simply never saw it. In any case, it speaks for itself, I think. The only way it will really correct itself is by investors looking at the executive pay and figuring that that execs are siphoning off too much money, money that they don't (...) (22 years ago, 23-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: For some Lego is a religous experience. (Was: Re: Quantifying and Classifying the LEGO Community
 
(...) I suppose they can suggest it to those predisposed to believing in a Greater Being, yes. But when you consider the # of stars in just our galaxy, and the # of planets that they can have (we find more and more every year, and as our technology (...) (22 years ago, 23-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: The U.S. Economy: The Thousand Yard Stare Through the Years
 
(...) Part of it is that I'm so disgusted by it that I can't bear to comment, and another reason is that I don't want to invite any lectures me re: "they're only receiving what the market says they should receive." I heard or read somewhere that a (...) (22 years ago, 23-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: The U.S. Economy: The Thousand Yard Stare Through the Years
 
I am slightly disappointed that nobody has anything to say about this post. Before Stangl jumps all over me, I am not specifically calling attention to myself as much as the issues I hoped to raise with the original post. Y'all can go right back to (...) (22 years ago, 23-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Tim Robbins "Countering a Wave of Hate"
 
How exactly is what you are advocating different from cosigning discrimination? useful definitions: discrimination -- treatment or consideration based on class or category rather than individual merit prejudice -- irrational suspicion or hatred of a (...) (22 years ago, 23-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: For some Lego is a religous experience. (Was: Re: Quantifying and Classifying the LEGO Community
 
(...) Hey, all are welcome! (...) Bruce addressed this already, but I thought I'd throw in my view as well. The first is the problem of precedent: when you estimate the odds of a bus accident, you can base it on known occurrences under similar (...) (22 years ago, 23-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: La belle province
 
(...) Well, in a democracy the people get to self-determine already - so one can argue about the use of having two states in similar circumstances taking similar decisions, when this only works to double institutions. The more states there are, the (...) (22 years ago, 23-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Tim Robbins "Countering a Wave of Hate"
 
(...) Er, no you don't... You merely know that I chose not to make that particular finding clear one way or another. :-) (any flattery I may have uttered at the time notwithstanding) (URL) to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and (...) (22 years ago, 23-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Tim Robbins "Countering a Wave of Hate"
 
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Scott Costello writes: <snip> (...) I'd like to be there for that competition! Dave K (22 years ago, 23-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Tim Robbins "Countering a Wave of Hate"
 
(...) I was yesterday reminded of the case of John Rocker. For those of you that aren't familiar with Rocker's situation, he was a star closing pitcher for the Atlanta Braves, very popular and highly regarded with the organization. In a Sports (...) (22 years ago, 23-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: For Sean...
 
(...) Again, if I were a hockey fan I might know fer sure who was still innit. I grew up in a sea of hockey fans so all my info is thru them. I think the Sens are still in and I know the Canucks are. So Vancouver or Ottawa--two teams i don't have (...) (22 years ago, 23-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: For some Lego is a religous experience. (Was: Re: Quantifying and Classifying the LEGO Community
 
(...) Given the right conditions (and we are talking about an incomprehensibly high number of planets with varying conditions), it may well be that the odds against life happening somewhere are the longshots. Atoms and molecules like to form certain (...) (22 years ago, 23-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: La belle province
 
(...) Puerto Rico occasionally holds referendums to decide whether to remain a territory (technically a commonwealth) or become a state. I found this on the web as an example: (URL) fairly sure PR would benefit greatly from becoming a state. In the (...) (22 years ago, 23-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: La belle province
 
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Dave Schuler writes: Whoops! That's the one I meant to delete. Dave! (22 years ago, 23-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: For Sean...
 
(...) The Wild won!!!...!!! (...) Game 7! How could they do this period????? (...) Lessee, who is next for my Wild (Man I hate team names that aren't plurals:-/)... the Canucks! >;^D (...) Wanna make a friendly US-Canadian wager? :-) JOHN (22 years ago, 23-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: La belle province
 
(...) Sure the free states were more free, if you were a white male (and a landowner, IIRC). But in terms of personally restrictive laws, I suppose you're correct. Dave! (22 years ago, 23-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: La belle province
 
(...) Sure the free states were more free, if you were a white male (and a landowner, IIRC). But in terms of restrictive laws, I suppose you're correct. Dave! (22 years ago, 23-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: For some Lego is a religous experience. (Was: Re: Quantifying and Classifying the LEGO Community
 
(...) Sorry to be a buttinski here, but I just thought of something. What about the odds angle? Sometimes coincidences are too great; that is, that the odds of something happening a certain way are way beyond normal expectation. Say, for instance, (...) (22 years ago, 23-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: La belle province
 
(...) Less democratic, yes. Less free (at least in the free states anyway)? Arguable. (Free society == democratic society) == false (22 years ago, 23-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: La belle province
 
(...) True, but the US was hardly even partly democratic at the time (except on paper)! Dave! (22 years ago, 23-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: La belle province
 
(...) Whoops! I meant "nope" as in "nope, you're not misremembering", sorry about that. Texans talk about separatism more often than most, for sure. (...) More like 51st through 64th or whatever, one state for each province/territory I would (...) (22 years ago, 23-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Jefferson Muzzle Fix!
 
(...) I concur--very nifty site! This past weekend I was visiting the SO in T.O., and was reading these Muzzles out loud to her and her roomies--her artistic roomie was very interested in the 'censoring nude art' and we had a great talk about what (...) (22 years ago, 23-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: La belle province
 
(...) K, my misremembery--I thought I read somewhere about a decade ago that there were some Texans talking about forming a 'separatist' movement... (...) That is, until, as some Canadians talk about, Canada becomes the 51st state. Is Puerto Rico (...) (22 years ago, 23-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Jefferson Muzzle Fix!
 
(...) Um, did you say something? I can't pay attention to all you Daves! (seriously, nifty site) (22 years ago, 23-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: La belle province
 
(...) Nope. They're the only (?? (1) ) state that joined by treaty after being an independent republic rather than being an original founder (that ratified the constitution as the means of joining) or a state formed from unorganised territory that (...) (22 years ago, 23-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: La belle province
 
(...) Not sure what you mean by immune in this context. Some democratic nations have resisted mightily. The US Civil War was at least partly about separatism. Other democratic nations have not resisted (Czechoslovakia seems to have peacefully (...) (22 years ago, 23-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Jefferson Muzzle Fix!
 
(...) Ahh, found it-- (URL) Dave! thought no one listened to him... :) Dave K (22 years ago, 23-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: For some Lego is a religous experience. (Was: Re: Quantifying and Classifying the LEGO Community
 
(...) But the crux of my question: "what if there isn't a reason behind the universe?" I'm not, at this point, saying conclusively whether there is or isn't one; I'm asking what would be the impact to you if there weren't a reason. Here's another (...) (22 years ago, 23-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Tim Robbins "Countering a Wave of Hate"
 
Coming back to a loose end... let me preface this by saying that I happen to agree with much of what Mr. Robbins said in his speech to the national press club about the dangers that americans face. Ashcroft is prima facia scary... The Patriot Act (...) (22 years ago, 23-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Jefferson Muzzle Fix!
 
(URL) which Harry Potter cast a spell and was allowed back into Ceaderville School. Now lets see if I can find the Jefferson Muzzle link again and see what else needs the 1st ammendment... Dave K (22 years ago, 23-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  For Sean...
 
The Leafs lost!!!!!!!! Game 7! How could they do this to me!!! Well, the Canucks are still in--that's a good thing. Well Pat, Dougie, Sundin (et al)... Hasta La Vista until next year--go hit the golf greens... Dave K -who, if he was a hockey fan, (...) (22 years ago, 23-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: La belle province
 
(...) <snip> (...) Doesn't Texas every once in a while talk about being 'separate' or is that just a figment of my imagination... Just wondering... Dave K (22 years ago, 23-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: La belle province
 
(...) I noticed the examples you gave were from nations where democracy was inexistent at the time of the breakup. So I ask: is a democratic nation immune to separatism? I mean, not the sociological phenomena in itself, rather the effective (...) (22 years ago, 23-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: For some Lego is a religous experience. (Was: Re: Quantifying and Classifying the LEGO Community)
 
(...) I have no problem whatsoever with *anyone* saying what they believe, except... God is a --how did you put it? Oh right... admonished for bad language. If we can have a confluence of ideas without one being asserted as 'Upper' and others (...) (22 years ago, 23-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: For some Lego is a religous experience. (Was: Re: Quantifying and Classifying the LEGO Community)
 
(...) I was hopeing that you'd catch me on the Upper and Lower Canada in 1867--then I could go into why I love Winona's history. So the simple idea that you missed the historical fact that Upper and Lower Canada ceased to exist at the beginning of (...) (22 years ago, 23-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: For some Lego is a religous experience. (Was: Re: Quantifying and Classifying the LEGO Community
 
(...) That would be analogous to asking "by what chemical (...) If we were to look at it from an opposing angle--how is the assessment that there *is* a God "behind the scenes" inferior to the view that the universe is there all by itself? Science (...) (22 years ago, 23-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  La belle province
 
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Terry Prosper writes: <snip> I dunno, Quebec doesn't seem all that oppressed to me, but I only have an outside view. Consider yourself lucky you're "stuck" with a country that would probably at least let you secede (...) (22 years ago, 23-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)


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