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<Important message: Please bear in mind that my questions are meant to be rhetorical, and not attacking. I am a white male, but I am not about keeping the woman down. Thank You.> (...) You are? Says who? Who will refuse to speak to you if you're (...) (24 years ago, 18-Jun-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) You're only proving my point. :-) Beside, the sky isn't blue. Bruce (lost somewhere in the SoCal haze) (24 years ago, 18-Jun-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) ? But I didn't even mention absorption! Blathering on about absorption when discussing a phenomenon that is entirely due to scattering - now THAT would be anal-retentive. ;) Jeff J (24 years ago, 18-Jun-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Wow. A delayed reaction insult. It was just sitting there saying "don't touch me". Scott A (24 years ago, 18-Jun-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) "(we'll skip the dicussion on light absorbtion and leave it for some anal-retentive type)" (restored snip) I knew some anal-retentive type would take the bait.... :-) Bruce (24 years ago, 18-Jun-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Easy to ignore them, not so easy to deal with all the other people in the world/society around you that do not ignore them. And in fact buy into it. (...) Count? As in 2 plus 2 is 5? <grin> (...) As some one who lives within spitting distance (...) (24 years ago, 18-Jun-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I think there are many pressures on men too. Modern man does not just go out and to a bit of huntin' and gatherin' - he also has to do all other sorts of other stuff. Both men & women are hounded by media images of what we should (...) (24 years ago, 18-Jun-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Actually... Although water and the sky appear blue for the same reason, it is not directly related to water itself (in vapour or liquid form). Oxygen, nitrogen, and water molecules are all approximately the same size, which happens to be just (...) (24 years ago, 18-Jun-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) This is a good example of poor snipping. Let me restore the salient portion to the above (before my name, immediately follwing the rest): "A fear by them that they *think* they *do* understand the Libertarian message (it's legit for businesses (...) (24 years ago, 18-Jun-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Us "women" do understand the message. You think I have time to be active in the Libertarian party? I'm too danged busy fighting all the other stereotypes out there, such as, I'm supposed to be the size of Kate Moss and all the other starving (...) (24 years ago, 18-Jun-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: McViegh is no Libertarian
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(...) You assume I am not one? :-) (...) Do not have to sign a pledge to be a libertarian? (...) Can you be sure of that? How so? Scott A (...) (24 years ago, 18-Jun-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) So where would that outlook stand on this story: (URL) (...) (24 years ago, 18-Jun-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) So where do Dave and I differ on this? How is there a class is difference between our views? (...) Where did I say that? Where? I think they are less likely too. I think any ideas they would have would be treated very sceptically. But I do not (...) (24 years ago, 18-Jun-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) You are wrong. Youch, an insult! (...) Youch, an insult! Go back and read the 1st message in this thread, you will see this whole "debate" is a troll. BTW - I have no middle name. Scott A (...) (24 years ago, 18-Jun-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | How to make the ¢ sign (as in "My 2¢")
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(...) Richard (and anyone else who has been *aching* to use the ¢ sign: From: (URL) (cute page, go see it) Mac users have it really easy. In whatever application you are in, type option-4. Viola! (gotta' love them Macs!-Matt) Windows folks... well, (...) (24 years ago, 18-Jun-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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(...) That was the quote! Thanks Shiri! Dan (24 years ago, 18-Jun-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Tom, I've made my points, and stand by them. You are attempting to put words in my mouth, and I'm not sure why. Try reading and understanding BEFORE you type next time, please, 'cause I don't appreciate it. (...) Not even interested in having (...) (24 years ago, 18-Jun-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Selçuk both gave the quote, and couldn't remember who said it. Either way though, I still like the quote in its out-of-Stalin context. ("The death of one is a tregedy, the death of millions is a stastic.) The way Stalin used it, it's (...) (24 years ago, 18-Jun-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Yup! Small steps leading to bigger, and bigger steps. Think of how far we've come just in one century! At the same time, as Carl Sagan said, we are still in our stage of "global infancy" and need to get past the petty, destructive differences (...) (24 years ago, 18-Jun-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: McViegh is no Libertarian
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(...) I honestly don't know the answer to this one. Animals don't have rights the way we do but I still don't think that being cruel to animals is OK. I have heard claims the market can take care of most of it if a little publicity is used... But (...) (24 years ago, 18-Jun-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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I've made no threats to seek you out and do you any harm. If you wish to continue your hostility just know that you can ONLY do it on-line with me. Remember, that's your limit and that's the way it is. YOU suggested otherwise so if YOU would like to (...) (24 years ago, 18-Jun-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) My point is that while that is true NOW we would be foolish to let it be so for a billion, a million, or even a thousand years longer. Manifest destiny! Ad Astra Per Aspera. Our destiny is not to remain here, every single one of us, for the (...) (24 years ago, 18-Jun-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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I'd much rather be rude than a threatening bully (used to be one when a child, when not being bullied, and choose not to be that kind of person again). You have been far more rude than me in this. That's it, I'm done commenting on your threats and (...) (24 years ago, 18-Jun-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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I'm giving you an honest appraisal of what I perceive to be your problem of treating me rudely on-line. I haven't called your comments ridiculous or idiotic, nor have I previously approached you with sarcasm or cynicism. Nothing you can say will (...) (24 years ago, 18-Jun-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Time for a new topic. Is anyone else as sick of Bush as I am? That man's head is stuck so far up the ass of industrial interests it scares me. I can't imagine what asinine BS that jerk is going to pull next. All I know is that it is SURE to hit my (...) (24 years ago, 18-Jun-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Just curious on this last bit. One thing I've struggled with some is where it is appropriate for the law to step in. How much should the law step in to prevent animal cruelty, and how do we chose that line. This type of dilema strikes me as (...) (24 years ago, 18-Jun-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: Waco (time for a Subject change already)
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(...) Yes, you've shown yourself to be the polar opposite of someone else in this forum, and I can't understand why you're not debating HIM. To you, it's "all hail the gubmint, which can do no wrong" or "if it's a law, it must be right". The both of (...) (24 years ago, 18-Jun-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Insults, insults, insults. Everything is insults with you. If you're not crying about getting them, you're dishing them out. (...) -- Tom Stangl ***(URL) Visual FAQ home ***(URL) Bay Area DSMs (24 years ago, 17-Jun-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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This will be my last long post in this debate. If anyone has points to debate further with me, please break them down into smaller bite size chunks, where I can reply quickly. I have devoted far too much time to these posts, and it is starting to (...) (24 years ago, 17-Jun-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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There were many ways you could have approached my statement that reflected a desire for more clarity, yet you chose to be rude and obnoxious. You chose hostility over diplomacy. That's your game and I'm not impressed. You are the one with the (...) (24 years ago, 17-Jun-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Whatever. I'm not impressed. Learn some manners and treat people with a little dignity. You choose to be rude and insulting on-line, that's your choice. You choose to pigeon hole people in this forum, that's your choice. See where it gets you in (...) (24 years ago, 17-Jun-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) No, the only thing that inflated this was your blatant lack of clarity. You seem to put VOLUMES of extra background into: "Everything that has ever happened or will ever happen with mankind has taken place on this tiny, blue world. Since we (...) (24 years ago, 17-Jun-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I see what you mean. Physical solutions are not my thing. I was hoping that my statement would be a reality check of sorts. Either way, his crude behavior toward me will remain on-line as far as I'm concerned. (...) Yes, I always welcome Tom's (...) (24 years ago, 17-Jun-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I was going to post some other drivel (about on the level of the above - actually, I did post, but I Cancelled it), but I'll just drop it with... <insert picture of gorilla beating chest here> <yawn> And I really will drop it. If Dan wants to (...) (24 years ago, 17-Jun-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Well, it kind of sounded (in two different notes) like you were inviting him to "step outside" about it. I'm not used to that kind of attitude. I am occasionally so put off by a note that I feel an urge toward violence. That is an immaturity (...) (24 years ago, 17-Jun-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) The (s) thing is new to me. Emoticons are OK sometimes, I use them when I think there's a doubt about my intent. (...) I thought I was going along with you. And I thought it was clear...sometimes I miss. Sorry. Chris (24 years ago, 17-Jun-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Personally, NO, because the earth has a history of mass extinctions that take place every so many million years apart. So, within a billion years there can be any number of mass extinction events followed by the rise of "new" organisms to (...) (24 years ago, 17-Jun-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) What do you gain by being smug in your insults? Why not either discuss the topic, or not? (...) I haven't and won't pretend to know your mind. I will continue to assume that you mean what you say. I can hardly do anything but. (...) Maybe you (...) (24 years ago, 17-Jun-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) <snipped some stuff> (...) Hey, I don't want to fight Tom or anybody, Chris. If Tom feels he can constantly take a nasty tone with me on-line, that's his choice. It doesn't impress me. If he says he's this way in person, he's welcome to come (...) (24 years ago, 17-Jun-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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