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Re: Now: Women Was: Libertarian SPAM (Propaganda)
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Mon, 18 Jun 2001 20:55:08 GMT
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<Important message: Please bear in mind that my questions are meant to be
rhetorical, and not attacking. I am a white male, but I am not about keeping
the woman down.  Thank You.>

In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Katie Dokken writes:

Us "women" do understand the message.  You think I have time to be active in
the Libertarian party?  I'm too danged busy fighting all the other stereotypes
out there, such as, I'm supposed to be the size of Kate Moss and all the other
starving women pictured on magazines,

You are? Says who? Who will refuse to speak to you if you're not?

Case in point: My wife is petite and has a small waist and is well endowed"
so to speak. She is gawked at by men all the time. So far, the only benefit
of her endowments has been the extra attention she receives. Many women all
over the country are getting breast implants. This will not afford them any
opportunities other than an increased amount of attention from men.

Following the same logic: Thin women are afforded more attention from men.
So it is not the thin-ness you desire, but the attention gained from it.

I'm supposed to be some major "career"
woman at the same time fighting up the ladder to be CEO of some firm,

You are? Who puts this pressure on you? Am I not, as a white male, supposed
to feel this pressure as well? I certainly don't feel pressured to be a
CEO... I wonder why you do?

yet I'm
also supposed to be Susie Homemaker a la, that nasty Martha Stewart?

What makes her nasty? I admit I make fun of Martha as much as the next
person, but honestly, why shouldn't she profit from her own ingenuity? Who
says you should have to be like her?

I'm
supposed to be "soccer mom" and a bazillion other stereotypes I'm fighting
every single day just to try and be me!

You have to try to be you? How do these stereotypes prevent you from being you?

I can't even shop in the hardware
store in peace without getting nailed by some male jerk wanting to help a
"little lady" like myself, the inference being that a woman wouldn't know a
thing about hardware or wood.

Yeah, what a jerk. He shouldn't try to be helpful. What a bastard. <sarcasm>

Perhaps if you don't go around looking to be insulted.....

Let alone all the males that think I shouldn't play with Trains or Lego.

There's enough time to play with Lego, but not enough to work with the LP?

I get negative responses about my Lego hobby too... usually in the form of:
"You have too much time on your hands." I choose to think of it like this:
The time others spend vegging out in front of the TV, I spend building
stuff. Perhaps you could call it "being constructive" with my time. ;^)

And you have the nerve to complain that there aren't
more women in the LP?

I tell you what.  I'll volunteer for the LP starting the day that I don't have
to work my butt off at some glass ceilinged job, spend 4 hours commuting each
day and then have some lazy ass man sitting at home expecting me to feed and
walk the dogs, feed him, clean up after him, entertain him, hear about "his"
day, and then have time and energy left over for "extra activities" (ie: sex),
ya, that will be the day I  have time to participate in the LP.

No one can take advantage of you without your permission. If he makes you
that angry, kick him to the curb.

<putting on flak vest>

Fire away. ;^)

~Mark "I sure miss my NNTP posting" Sandlin



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(...) The media says I should be. And I think the explosion of eating disorders among teen age girls says that they are getting the message. I personally ignore all advertising. I'm a marketers nightmare. I don't believe or pay attention to any ads (...) (23 years ago, 19-Jun-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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  Now: Women Was: Libertarian SPAM (Propaganda)
 
(...) Us "women" do understand the message. You think I have time to be active in the Libertarian party? I'm too danged busy fighting all the other stereotypes out there, such as, I'm supposed to be the size of Kate Moss and all the other starving (...) (23 years ago, 18-Jun-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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