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Re: Now: Women Was: Libertarian SPAM (Propaganda)
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Mon, 18 Jun 2001 15:59:40 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Katie Dokken writes:
> In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Bruce Schlickbernd writes:
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> > If the question is meaningless, then why is the Libertarian Party almost
> > exclusively white male? I'm not meaning that as a personal attack - I just
> > am curious if you have an opinion as to why. A failing on minorities and
> > women to understand the Libertarian message?
> > Bruce
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> Us "women" do understand the message. You think I have time to be active in
> the Libertarian party? I'm too danged busy fighting all the other stereotypes
> out there, such as, I'm supposed to be the size of Kate Moss and all the other
> starving women pictured on magazines, I'm supposed to be some major "career"
> woman at the same time fighting up the ladder to be CEO of some firm, yet I'm
> also supposed to be Susie Homemaker a la, that nasty Martha Stewart? I'm
> supposed to be "soccer mom" and a bazillion other stereotypes I'm fighting
> every single day just to try and be me! I can't even shop in the hardware
> store in peace without getting nailed by some male jerk wanting to help a
> "little lady" like myself, the inference being that a woman wouldn't know a
> thing about hardware or wood. Let alone all the males that think I shouldn't
> play with Trains or Lego. And you have the nerve to complain that there aren't
> more women in the LP?
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> I tell you what. I'll volunteer for the LP starting the day that I don't have
> to work my butt off at some glass ceilinged job, spend 4 hours commuting each
> day, and then have some lazy ass man sitting at home expecting me to feed and
> walk the dogs, feed him, clean up after him, entertain him, hear about "his"
> day, and then have time and energy left over for "extra activities" (ie: sex),
> ya, that will be the day I have time to participate in the LP. As far as the
> LP message goes, I get it just fine.
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> Katie
I think there are many pressures on men too. Modern man does not just go out
and to a bit of huntin' and gatherin' - he also has to do all other sorts of
other stuff. Both men & women are hounded by media images of what we should
do/want/feel/be etc etc –it is up to us to ignore them.
I think you are correct if you are saying it is still a man’s world.
However, I think my generation is used to the fact that women have opinions,
can count and can even act alone. However, my generation is not running the
world yet. A fair amount of those who are running it either do discriminate
against women, or make clumsy efforts at positive female discrimination –
neither of which is good. Although, within the EU/UK we have good
anti-discrimination laws which protect everyone in the employment market.
hmm a "soccer mom" sounds good, where can I buy one?
Scott A
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