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  Re: A question of remembrance...
 
(...) Great point, Dave! And that's exactly my point of the media twisting things to suit a political purpose--hence propaganda. (...) I remember it because it ticked me off. I ended up recording it on video. (...) It's not just the lies, but the (...) (23 years ago, 24-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: A question of remembrance...
 
(...) I believe that an omission is a lie. So, to omit the whole history of the Holocaust and focus only on one group of people that suffered and died, and to repeat and repeat only that part of the history (allowing the other stats to be obscured) (...) (23 years ago, 24-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: A question of remembrance...
 
(...) I don't remember that special, but--more than just propaganda--it's playing to public expectation. If it had aired two years earlier, no doubt Qaddafi (has anyone ever agreed on an English spelling of his name?) would have been the target. (...) (23 years ago, 24-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: A question of remembrance...
 
(...) Heh heh, I see what you mean. That was a big ol' can of worms! ;^) (...) If you want specifics, I've got doosy for you-- In October of 1990, NBC aired a "special" on Nostrodamis's predictions of world tyrants (by the way, all that Nostradamis (...) (23 years ago, 24-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Lego copyrights native language
 
(...) So it's ok for a Danish company to use an English name but not a Maori one? Note that it was pointed out that TLC did not copyright or trademark the names (and even if they were trademarked, a trademark is in relation to a specific product (...) (23 years ago, 24-Apr-01, to lugnet.general, lugnet.loc.nz, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: A question of remembrance...
 
(...) Whoa. Dude. Freaky. The article number was 1227, but the trailing "7" seems to have been chopped off. Let's see if this works: (URL) that, try this... /off-topic/debate/?n=1227 The disclaimer still stands, though. ;-) (...) Hmm. It's difficult (...) (23 years ago, 24-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: A question of remembrance...
 
(...) Or doesn't work, since we keep having wars. :( Yep, the American media does a great job to stir up hatred as to somehow justify it's shameful foreign policy. Omitting facts about the Holocaust by repeating (and repeating) only the figures on (...) (23 years ago, 24-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: A question of remembrance...
 
(...) In my view, since the film was about Schindler's List, anyone outside of the direct effect of The List is irrelevant to the film. That's not to say their deaths weren't tragic or aren't signficant, but they are beyond the intended scope of the (...) (23 years ago, 24-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: A question of remembrance...
 
(...) It should be noted that Speilberg is Jewish. This doesn't forgive his ignoring other pogroms, of course, but it is significant. (...) This has been hashed over in this newsgroup before; here's my take (1) on it: (URL) few of those points I've (...) (23 years ago, 24-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: How talentless IS Steven Segal
 
(...) Me too. His films are kitchy but somehow super fun. My favorite scene was with the folding-ladder combat in First Strike. Cheers, - jsproat (23 years ago, 24-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: How talentless IS Steven Segal
 
(...) I'm guilty (gulp) of watching a few of them, mostly as background noise in the apartment with me occaisionally asking "What is this crap?" The stupidest scene to watch is the car chase in "Above the Law". We discover that Segal has the magic (...) (23 years ago, 24-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: A question of remembrance...
 
Richard, Wow, that was an excellent post! Yes, I agree that we should remember all the victims of the Holocaust. I feel it does justice to the memory of the Jewish victims when we don't single them out, because doing so creates a hipocrisy. When (...) (23 years ago, 24-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: How talentless IS...?
 
(...) I like the Postman, although it is quite different from the book and an awful load of parts are omitted. Actually I generally like the plots like "hey people, lets unite and save the world" kind. Do you remember the old TV series Visitors (I (...) (23 years ago, 24-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: How talentless IS Steven Segal
 
(...) I never went to cinema to see his films, but I try to catch every piece when aired on TV. The part that I like most is "these stupid things occurred while filming" part that at the end of most of his films. Do you see the one with a very big (...) (23 years ago, 24-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: How talentless IS...?
 
(...) I never saw the film but when it came out and it was on the movie review shows I remember really liking the fact that they killed him off right at the start of the movie :-) Steve (23 years ago, 23-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: How talentless IS...?
 
(...) Jones is always a treat. I don't think Ms. Eleniak did too badly, considering that the part was only written with two things in mind. Anyway, it's not like the role (or the film) allowed deep character development. (...) I couldn't remember (...) (23 years ago, 23-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: How talentless IS...?
 
Dave Schuler at orrex@excite.com wrote: <snip> (...) <snip> (...) <snip> Hmm, I rather like Robin Hood. I think all the actors in it are quite good. Bearing in mind that Kevin Costner isn't an "actor" ;^) ~Grand Admiral Muffin Head (23 years ago, 23-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: How talentless IS...?
 
(...) The only good thing about Under Siege is Tommy Lee Jones. I should note that Segal is at least a better actor than the bimbo in that movie (damned with faint praise <g>). I liked Segal in Executive Decision - I got to cheer when he died! (...) (...) (23 years ago, 23-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: How talentless IS...?
 
(...) I refuse to allow myself to think of Costner in those terms. (...) Costner fails more spectacularly than Segal is allowed to because Costner presumes more spectacularly than Segal is allowed to. I understand that On Deadly Ground (what was (...) (23 years ago, 23-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: How talentless IS...?
 
(...) You also think the top less scene with Erika Eleniak was that movies greatest part huh? ,) Steven Segal, yes. Quite bad. But at least I saw the movies to the end, I don't know how many Jean Claude Van Dam movies I've turned off though... (...) (23 years ago, 23-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)


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