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Re: A question of remembrance...
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Tue, 24 Apr 2001 07:49:45 GMT
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Richard,
Wow, that was an excellent post! Yes, I agree that we should remember all
the victims of the Holocaust. I feel it does justice to the memory of the
Jewish victims when we don't single them out, because doing so creates a
hipocrisy. When Spielberg accepted the Academy Award for "Schindler's List",
Bosnians were being murdered by the tens of thousands at the hands of the
Serbians. Men, women and children were not only murdered but raped and
hacked to pieces. The same thing in Rwanda with the Hutus and Tutsies.
So, as an artist putting out a message of mass human suffering, the least
Spielberg could have done at that moment before the world was to speak out
against the genocide still going on in the world at that very moment. No, he
stuck to the Jews only and, in my opinion, reduced their tragedy to cliche.
Even certain political Jews themselves, the Zionists, terribly dishonored
the memory of the Holocaust victims by playing world sympathy to create
Israel. The people already living there (the Palestinians--who were Jews,
Christians and Moslems alike) ended up getting kicked off their land. The
Zionists used the same brutal methods as their former Nazi oppressors--mass
executions, chucking grenades at people in their homes, even massacres of
entire villages. There are first hand accounts from Zionists of their covert
attacks on fellow Jews in Iraq, which they blamed on Moslems, in order to
bolster immigration and support for Israel. And just like many people
denying the truth of the Holocaust, many Jews deny the truth of the brutal
creation of Israel while a sympathetic America looks the other way.
About 28 million Russians (that's soldiers and civilians) died because of
the Germans. How come we almost never hear about them? That's more than 4
times the estimate of 6 million Jews! Really, how come we don't hear about
this? Why isn't this ever repeated on the news, instead of repeating the
lesser estimate of Jewish victims? By omitting the Russian dead, as well as
Gypsies or homosexuals, doesn't the media reinforce the false perception
that only Jews suffered in the Holocaust? Doesn't the media further
indignify Jewish people by contributing to the stereotype of the "suffering
Jew"? I'm sure if you ask a Native American for just one incident during the
Holocaust, he could refer you to ten similarly horrific incidents during the
holocaust of his people.
I agree, Holocaust Rememberance Day is for all who have suffered under the
grip of oppression.
Dan
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| (...) It should be noted that Speilberg is Jewish. This doesn't forgive his ignoring other pogroms, of course, but it is significant. (...) This has been hashed over in this newsgroup before; here's my take (1) on it: (URL) few of those points I've (...) (23 years ago, 24-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| Hey Dan, Hi Richard, and Jeremy and Dave. First of all - I want to make it loud and clear that I am *totally* biased. Not only am I 100% Jewish, but my whole family suffered from the Holocaust, I have a very small extended family because most of my (...) (23 years ago, 24-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| Hey Y'all: I have a series of related comments and questions about how we should remember the holocaust. (And boy, do I have a bad feeling about raising these issues -- but here they come...) Frankly, I just don't get something about Holocaust (...) (23 years ago, 22-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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