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Re: How talentless IS...?
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Mon, 23 Apr 2001 14:22:28 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Larry Pieniazek writes:
> In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Dave Schuler writes:
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> > For comparison, I present Kevin Costner as Exhibit A. Worse, Costner
> > imagines himself not only as an actor
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> You left out Producer and Director...
I refuse to allow myself to think of Costner in those terms.
> > but as a worthwhile social commentator.
> > When did he last release a film that wasn't dreadful? Certainly not Revenge, >or
> > A Perfect World, or The Postman,
> The Postman wasn't *dreadful*.
Costner fails more spectacularly than Segal is allowed to because Costner
presumes more spectacularly than Segal is allowed to. I understand that On
Deadly Ground (what was Michael Caine thinking?!) originally included a 10
minute monologue by Segal on the Evils of Industry. Some merciful soul
clipped him to about a minute before the final cut. Costner, however, is
given three hours of screen time any time he wants it, and that simply
spells 180 minutes of flat, wooden acting.
> > or Waterworld, or Tin Cup, or For the love of
> > the Game, or Robin Hood, or The Bodyguard, or 3000 Miles to Graceland, or JFK
> > (which wasn't especially foul--just an Oliver Stone agenda film).
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> JFK was the worst of your entire list. Its ONLY redeeming feature is the
> vast cast, including Kevin Bacon, which is key for quick linking when you
> are playing Back to Bacon.
That is indeed a redeeming factor! Ensemble films like Short Cuts are also
great linkers. By the way, I forgot to include Wild Bill on my list--proof
that interesting fact (such as it is) does *not* guarantee interesting fiction.
> Other than that, it's dreck. Like all Stone works, IMHO, although YMMV.
I liked Platoon when I was in high school, but I haven't seen it since
then. Stone is ritualistically overrated, to be sure.
Dave!
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| (...) You left out Producer and Director... (...) Hey now. The Postman wasn't *dreadful*. It could have been a LOT better, mind you, as anyone who read the book would attest, but it wasn't as bad a mangle of a good book as Starship Troopers was. (...) (25 years ago, 23-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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