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Re: How talentless IS...?
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Mon, 23 Apr 2001 06:23:06 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Dave Schuler writes:
> For comparison, I present Kevin Costner as Exhibit A. Worse, Costner
> imagines himself not only as an actor
You left out Producer and Director...
> but as a worthwhile social commentator.
> When did he last release a film that wasn't dreadful? Certainly not Revenge, >or
> A Perfect World, or The Postman,
Hey now.
The Postman wasn't *dreadful*. It could have been a LOT better, mind you, as
anyone who read the book would attest, but it wasn't as bad a mangle of a
good book as Starship Troopers was. Some plot elements were actually
recognisable. AND... the nudity wasn't gratuitous, it advanced the plot.
Sort of.
Erm, I think I just damned it with faint praise. :-)
> or Waterworld, or Tin Cup, or For the love of
> the Game, or Robin Hood, or The Bodyguard, or 3000 Miles to Graceland, or JFK
> (which wasn't especially foul--just an Oliver Stone agenda film).
JFK was the worst of your entire list. Its ONLY redeeming feature is the
vast cast, including Kevin Bacon, which is key for quick linking when you
are playing Back to Bacon. Other than that, it's dreck. Like all Stone
works, IMHO, although YMMV.
> I'm thinking
> Dances with Wolves, and even that was overlong. And how many baseball films
> are we going to let this hack make before someone pulls the plug on him?!
++Lar
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| (...) I refuse to allow myself to think of Costner in those terms. (...) Costner fails more spectacularly than Segal is allowed to because Costner presumes more spectacularly than Segal is allowed to. I understand that On Deadly Ground (what was (...) (23 years ago, 23-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) I like the Postman, although it is quite different from the book and an awful load of parts are omitted. Actually I generally like the plots like "hey people, lets unite and save the world" kind. Do you remember the old TV series Visitors (I (...) (23 years ago, 24-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) Steve, I think you posted to the wrong group. This group is for debates--NOT undeniable truths! Segal is so unbelievably awful that the best thing you can say about him is that Under Seige didn't suck quite as bad as his other films, but Segal (...) (23 years ago, 23-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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