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(...) See: (URL) Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2000 05:18:47 GM "I was also carving bricks from the first (see my wings attachment at the page noted above)." also: (URL) It's probably mentioned before that time, but those refs will suffice -- not a year, but at (...) (21 years ago, 18-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.clone-brands, FTX)
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(...) You are my hero, Hop-Frog, uniter of the Lugnet community by insulting most of us. As for me, I was only saying I'd rather not see clone elements, but hey, it was YOU who started insulting other people, so I guess it makes you the (...) (21 years ago, 18-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.clone-brands, FTX)
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I think it's very easy for those of you insisting on brand exclusionary practices to see yourselves as inoffensive, but you're not. The very act of telling someone like Dave! to stay in his little corner of lugnet and not come out or be seen by (...) (21 years ago, 18-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.clone-brands, FTX)
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(...) I'm only saying that this site is called LEGO-USER GROUP network. Not Bricks user group network. Dave can go post his LEGO MOC like anyother in the announce.MOC forums, but this site is dedicated to LEGO, not clones. And it's not as if I was (...) (21 years ago, 18-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.clone-brands, FTX)
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(...) It doesn't matter what the site is called -- what is it's purpose? To celebrate bricks or brand loyalty? Stop avoiding the issue. Stop assuming you have some kind of superiority in claiming what the site is about. What the site itself claims (...) (21 years ago, 18-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.clone-brands, FTX)
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(...) Let me rephrase that: I think that this website is about LEGO. I don't care for other brands. I've owned them, I din't like them. They are cheap, plastic is not as shiney, solid, colorful. Now, that is MY opinion. Let it be. I'm entitled to my (...) (21 years ago, 18-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.clone-brands)
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(...) BEWARE : CLONE CRAP HERE!!! The poster that pretends to respect others is really just a counterfeit -- his point is that you must respect his view, not that he must respect yours. Yeah, it's just his opinion. Sorry it was worded rather (...) (21 years ago, 18-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.clone-brands, FTX)
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(...) (btw, you removed the smily that was next to Cone crap here, which makes it very dramatic, but doesn't respect the fact that it was intended as a joke, and you must know it since you removed it...I'll quote myself, if you don't mind: "There (...) (21 years ago, 18-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.clone-brands)
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(...) Private Propery, dude. You can not like how it's run, and you can complain all you like, but if you don't like it, leave it. (...) You'd be wrong. from (URL) : I think anything about other non-LEGO® systems would really need a hierarchy name (...) (21 years ago, 18-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.clone-brands, FTX)
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In lugnet.off-topic.clone-brands, James Brown wrote: <snip> (...) Haha! Great sense of humor dude :-) I really like your style :-D <snip> (...) Thanks James. I'm waaaaaay too lazy to make these research by myself ;-) It's nice to see some people (...) (21 years ago, 18-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.clone-brands)
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(...) Oups, read too fast. The comment i was referring to was from Todd. Well, Kudos to Todd for saying it and James for reporting it :-) (21 years ago, 18-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.clone-brands)
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(...) Just a quick note to correct Terry's mis-attribution: I didn't say this, Todd Lehman said it 5 years ago, in the message I was quoting. Terry, it's Todd's style you like. :) James (21 years ago, 18-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.clone-brands)
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(...) Feh! What does this "Todd" person know about LUGNET, anyway? Dave! (21 years ago, 18-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.clone-brands)
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What I find interesting about that old thread is the importance of basic brick compatibility to most of the users. Given that criteria, why is there a newsgroup for Clickits -- I mean, except for the fact that TLC manufactures it? Maybe the subject (...) (21 years ago, 18-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.clone-brands, FTX)
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(...) Rabble-rouser. :) I don't necessarily disagree, but I think that if you're going to re-open that can of worms, it's probably best to try and engage the admins about it, or more of the community at large. Hence the cross-post. James (21 years ago, 18-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.clone-brands, lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.general, FTX)
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(...) I don't think this is a really valid argument in this discussion, because the same people would probably object to clone brands displayed at Brickfest, Brickswest, etc, and probably dislike clone brands on Brickshelf, all of which have "Brick" (...) (21 years ago, 18-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.clone-brands, FTX)
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(...) I can't say that I recall anyone at any time every complaining about anything because it was 100% non-Lego on the Pirates board, much less some small percentage. For that matter, no complaints come to mind on the Castle board. Is this just a (...) (21 years ago, 18-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.clone-brands, FTX)
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(...) Yes, IMHO. Dave asked 'anyone mind if I post clone MOC's to announce.moc, Terry said 'I do' and Richard said 'that's wrong' to Terry. They proceeded to spar, with occaisonal comments from the peanut gallery, like me. Lugnet is mildly biased (...) (21 years ago, 18-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.clone-brands, FTX)
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(...) "Yes" to what question? In that despite whatever Terry may have said, almost no one makes a fuss about non-lego bricks? I understand the sequence of the fuss, which honestly, is neither here nor there to me. (...) I'm saying does a side need (...) (21 years ago, 18-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.clone-brands, FTX)
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(...) No, of course you don't need to take sides. To me, there are 2 separate issues here: 1-Was my answer to the theorical question from David stated in an offensive way towards anyone? 2-Was Hop-Frog's comments abusive? This IS a storm in a glass (...) (21 years ago, 18-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.clone-brands, FTX)
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(...) I agree with James here. Richard, I don't read posts in the Clickits or Znap forums. Nor do I read the ones in off-topic.clone. That's why I think this website ought to be about LEGO. If it was about building bricks, I'd have to scan through (...) (21 years ago, 18-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.clone-brands, lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.general)
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(...) Yes to the question I didn't snip. Sorry if that was unclear. Snipped further for excessive clarity. (21 years ago, 18-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.clone-brands, FTX)
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(...) Okay, point taken, but I was searching for "Batlord", "Executioner", and "Batlord Executioner" and I got a whole lot of nothing. You'll have to excuse me if I assumed you would have posted something about it by name. (...) I am not one for (...) (21 years ago, 19-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.clone-brands, FTX)
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(...) He's not being told to stay in his little corner of LUGNET. Everyone here is free to post just about wherever they want, as long as it doesn't violate any charter guidelines. He is being told that clone MOCs probably aren't acceptable outside (...) (21 years ago, 19-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.clone-brands, FTX)
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(...) Legally they can't call them "LEGOfest", "LEGOsWest", or "LEGOshelf" because they'd be in clear violation of trademark law (and would undoubtedly get called out on it). LUGNET rides the line by using an acronym that involves the word "LEGO", (...) (21 years ago, 19-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.clone-brands, FTX)
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(...) They actually have a division that's set up just to explore how their product can be used to help in early childhood development, on top of stuff like the LEGO First League (...) Same here. I bought a Matoro set from McD's only to find that (...) (21 years ago, 19-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.clone-brands)
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(...) You have to ask? Maybe you do not visit the index page that ofen.. it clearly says this: "Global community of LEGO enthusiasts LUGNET™ unites LEGO fans worldwide through discussion groups, web pages, and services. As an independent site by (...) (21 years ago, 19-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.clone-brands, FTX)
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Here are my last thoughts on this subject... In general, I think I've made my points and I don't actually think that anyone has intelligently refuted any of those points. There is a kind of exclusionary, nose in the air, attitude about clones that (...) (21 years ago, 19-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.clone-brands, FTX)
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(...) How so? You modified a piece of Lego. You didn't create it. You modified a product already covered by patent. (21 years ago, 19-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.clone-brands, FTX)
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