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| | | If you saw my posts in the thread "Target Lies and Great Buys" (URL) said I would tell the story of my local Target and the Life on Mars 7317. Well it all started back around July. I love to sell on ebay, and having just come out of my dark ages (...) (22 years ago, 18-Jan-02, to lugnet.market.shopping)
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| | | | | Re: FOTY, at least for me. —Eric Brouwer
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| | | | | So you happily cheated Target out of hundreds of dollars in revenue? Kudos to you and your ethics. I for one am not impressed in your veiled theft. Eric (...) (22 years ago, 18-Jan-02, to lugnet.market.shopping)
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| | | | | | | Re: FOTY, at least for me. —Steve Runnels
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| | | | | | | (...) Aw, you're just jealous! If they're that stupid, or understaffed, or whatever, to miss that, TOO BAD! They just lost a couple hundred bucks. Boo hoo, not like it's going to break Target or anything. ---SteveR (22 years ago, 18-Jan-02, to lugnet.market.shopping)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: FOTY, at least for me. —Eric Brouwer
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| | | | | | | | I see. So it's ok because they are a big business. My mistake. But wait a second... If some little old lady who's husband died and left her a nice chunk of change decides to sell their mint, classic, low milage Caddie becuase she doesn't drive for (...) (22 years ago, 18-Jan-02, to lugnet.market.shopping)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: FOTY, at least for me. —Renard Graham
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| | | | | | | | (...) snip What about when someone finds a rare set the TRU or Walmart (or whoever) puts out a set that they had sitting in their warehouse for years and they mark it down and place it in their clearance area, should we tell them they can get more (...) (22 years ago, 18-Jan-02, to lugnet.market.shopping)
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| | | | | | | Re: FOTY, at least for me. —Renard Graham
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| | | | | | | (...) snip I bought them at the price anybody else walking in could have. Are you suggesting that I shouldn't have bought any, and told them of their mistake in pricing? Maybe, but the way I see it, if they have done something like this they have (...) (22 years ago, 18-Jan-02, to lugnet.market.shopping)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: FOTY, at least for me. —Andy Evans
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| | | | | | | | | Actually, I think it's a great story (whether you think it was opportunistic or something worse), because it illustrates the best and worst of automated ordering systems. Besides, now I know where all those cheap 7317's on E-bay were coming from :) (...) (22 years ago, 18-Jan-02, to lugnet.market.shopping)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: FOTY, at least for me. —Ray Sanders
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| | | | | | | | (...) Once upon a time, many years ago, I was in a warehouse buying place called 'Pace'. I noted that they had something electronic at a really rediculous low price. I pointed that out to them, they checked the details and realized their mistake. (...) (22 years ago, 18-Jan-02, to lugnet.market.shopping)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: FOTY, at least for me. —Renard Graham
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| | | | | | | | | (...) I remember PACE warehouse stores, they were owned by KMart I believe. Didn't last long in our area though, couldn't compete with Price Club and Costco. (22 years ago, 19-Jan-02, to lugnet.market.shopping)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: FOTY, at least for me. —Paul Sinasohn
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| | | | | | | | (...) There's a local beverage store chain called "Beverages and More". When one of their new stores opened, they priced Thomas Hardy ale for 99 cents per bottle (instead of the $4.25 it should have been). I asked a store manager if that was the (...) (22 years ago, 19-Jan-02, to lugnet.market.shopping)
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| | | | | | | Re: FOTY, at least for me. —Frank Filz
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| | | | | | | (...) I just envy him. Here in Cary NC we had a somewhat similar thing with 5978. They had clearanced them one summer for $15.74. Then in the fall, they showed up on the shelf again, with a regular price of $15.74. I asked a handy employee to scan (...) (22 years ago, 19-Jan-02, to lugnet.market.shopping)
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| | | | | | | Re: FOTY, at least for me. —Chris Maddison
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| | | | | | | (...) Doesn't sound like "veiled theft" to me. Target made a mistake, and Renard just happened to be there to benefit from it. It's not his responsibility to say "Hey, these are supposed to be $80, why are you selling them for $25? You really should (...) (22 years ago, 19-Jan-02, to lugnet.market.shopping, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | Re: FOTY, at least for me. —Larry Pieniazek
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| | | | | | (...) Well others have said it but I think it bears repeating, I'm not sure I'd characterise taking advantage of a price in the system that the system chose to assign as theft. He did nothing to interfere with Target's knowledge of their prices or (...) (22 years ago, 19-Jan-02, to lugnet.market.shopping)
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| | | | | | | | Re: FOTY, at least for me. —Renard Graham
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| | | | | | snip (...) snip I wonder about this, my wife who was actually there when they were doing the markdown was able to just pick up three of the 4561 Railway Express sets. I was at the same store the night before and there was none of these sets anywhere (...) (22 years ago, 19-Jan-02, to lugnet.market.shopping)
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| | | | | scalpers —Kirby Warden
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| | | | | (...) So you're a scalper. One of those opportunistic vermin. Scalper= scum of the earth. (22 years ago, 19-Jan-02, to lugnet.market.shopping)
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| | | | | | | Re: scalpers —James Brown
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| | | | | | (...) Not really. If he was a scalper, he would be outside the store, selling the sets to frustrated people who didn't find them inside. Scalpers insert themselves as middlemen where there is no added value. Renard was reselling these to a different (...) (22 years ago, 19-Jan-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | Re: scalpers —Kirby Warden
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| | | | | | (...) That is exactly what the modern scalper does via E-Bay and other means. That is exactly what this man said he does. I'll use myself as an example of the "frustrated people who didn't find them inside" as I only go to E-Bay when I CAN'T find (...) (22 years ago, 19-Jan-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | Re: scalpers —Renard Graham
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| | | | | | (...) snip No, I don't sell them for higher than the face value, that is the definition of a scalper. I actually sell them for less than retail on ebay, so how does that fit into your definition of scum. If you have been following the shopping (...) (22 years ago, 19-Jan-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | Re: scalpers —Kirby Warden
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| | | | | | (...) Our definitions are clashing. I have not accused you of jacking up the prices. You fall under the definition of a new, "modern" scalper. One who clears shelves of items and sells them on a secondary market for a profit. It doesn't matter if (...) (22 years ago, 19-Jan-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | Re: scalpers —Larry Pieniazek
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| | | | | | | (...) What do you mean "should have been"? The goal of a store is to sell things. Stores are within their rights to put quantity limits in place, if they so choose. They are also within their rights to sell as many as they like to the first person (...) (22 years ago, 19-Jan-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: scalpers —Frank Filz
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| | | | | | | | | (...) Note also that in many sales, stores offer rain checks. I have also seen plenty of stores advertise limits on how many of an item they will sell to one customer. The existence and frequent use of both of these tactics suggest that the stores (...) (22 years ago, 19-Jan-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: scalpers —Rob Doucette
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| | | | | | | | (...) Speaking of scalpers... I came across this page on the Rebelscum website: (URL) their definition of Collector apply to LEGO in the context of this thread? -Rob. (22 years ago, 21-Jan-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: scalpers —Frank Filz
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| | | | | | | | (...) Interesting. It does seem to include a good definition of "scalper" even though it uses it as a perjorative. I do have some comments on it though. - They are making a value judgement about Ben's collection (he's the one who bought 3 C-3POs, 2 (...) (22 years ago, 21-Jan-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | Re: scalpers —Renard Graham
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| | | | | | snip (...) No, you have every right to speak your personal opinion, that is why this forum, and this country are so great. I won't say I agree with you but never feel you shouldn't have stated your opinion, it's what you believe and that should be (...) (22 years ago, 20-Jan-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | Re: FOTY, at least for me. —John Heins
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| | | | | Before the execution proceeds, a different pov. Isn't this simply a form or arbitrage - where a buyer takes advantage of a localized oversupply or pricing anomaly and resells the product at a price closer to what is the "global market price"? (...) (22 years ago, 19-Jan-02, to lugnet.market.shopping)
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| | | | | | | Re: FOTY, at least for me. —Larry Pieniazek
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| | | | | | | (...) YES. In fact even the scalper of tickets performs a service. I'm sorry, but I don't have time to play games with Ticketmaster, waiting in line for armbands to determine where in a ticket line I end up in, which determines my shot at a block of (...) (22 years ago, 19-Jan-02, to lugnet.market.shopping, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: FOTY, at least for me. —Frank Filz
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| | | | | | | | (...) There was recently a flap in the paper here about scalping. NC State has a new policy banning resale of tickets on their property which upset people like season ticket holders or just folks who showed up for a game and one person wasn't able (...) (22 years ago, 19-Jan-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: FOTY, at least for me. —Larry Pieniazek
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| | | | | | | | (...) But you see NC State is wrong. Even those people are doing a service. My former employer got season ticks to the Pistons one year, and they were more hapless than usual, winning hardly any important games. So it got to where the firm was (...) (22 years ago, 19-Jan-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: FOTY, at least for me. —Frank Filz
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| | | | | | | | (...) Oh, I never said it was a good thing for them to do. I'm not sure how I feel about a government university limiting this particular activity on their property. Obviously it would be better if the university were not government in the first (...) (22 years ago, 19-Jan-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: FOTY, at least for me. —Scott Arthur
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| | | | | | | | (...) I'm not sure why a private University would be necessarily better? In the UK, as far a I know, there is only one university which is wholly privately owned and funded (most are nominally privately owned, but are largely funded by the taxpayer) (...) (22 years ago, 21-Jan-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | Re: FOTY, at least for me. —Renard Graham
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| | | | | | (...) snip Thank you John, that is exactly what my class in microeconomics taught me. If you were to look at my completed auctions, I sold for less than retail, and I am perfectly happy with that, because I bought at less than what I am selling it (...) (22 years ago, 19-Jan-02, to lugnet.market.shopping)
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| | | | | Re: FOTY, at least for me. —Troy Cefaratti
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| | | | (...) moral (...) on (...) and (...) Congratulation on your luck in this deal Renard. I have just a few observations for you and especially for those that seem to have taken issue with you doing this. 1. Just where do you think all the cheap Lego on (...) (22 years ago, 19-Jan-02, to lugnet.market.shopping)
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| | | | | | Re: FOTY, at least for me. —Frank Filz
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| | | | (...) They could have also posted a sign in the LEGO aisle and I would have honored that. Now push come to shove, they might still be required to honor the original ad, but honestly, one does need to have a capability to correct a mistake. (...) (22 years ago, 19-Jan-02, to lugnet.market.shopping)
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