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Re: Thoughts on Brickbay fees (Re: Brickbay problems........again)
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lugnet.market.buy-sell-trade
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Sun, 1 Jul 2001 23:00:21 GMT
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In lugnet.market.buy-sell-trade, Jan-Albert van Ree writes:
> Ray Sanders wrote:
>
> > Having said this, implementing such a fee (such as the one described
> > above)
> > would place an unequitable burden on the small sellers. Heres something
> > that I believe would be a might more fair:
> >
> > 1) Charge the seller 1-cent for each lot when added to BrickBay (batch
> > upload
> > or manual)
>
> That MIGHT work, although some people might stop listing small batches of
> parts because it makes the profit margin even smaller.
>
> > 2) On the last day of the month, for any lot which has been listed for
> > more
> > than 3 weeks...
> > 2a) Charge the seller 1-cent for each lot present on the last day of the
> > month
> > (for lots with quantities less than 2000) *or*
> > 2b) Charge the seller 1-cent for each lot present on the last day of the
> > month
> > (per whole multiple of 1000 units, when the quantity is at least 2,000
> > units)
>
> 2a seems VERY unfair to certain sellers. If a seller had some very rare
> parts, priced "fair" he might still not sell them within a month. Why fine
> him for putting up rare parts, which might not be sold much? This would
> lead people to only post certain parts (which sell very fast) on Brickbay
> and perhaps mention in their shops that they have more parts on sale
> elsewhere, so Dan might actually get less, since part of the deal is made
> without Brickbay.
Every lot listed on Brickbay consumes resources. Those resources might be
bandwidth, disk space, etc. If someone has two 'Yellow 1 x 2 Brick's listed, the
odds are small that those would be desirable parts. They have an intrinsic value
that is small. Yet they take up the same amount of search resources, bandwidth
to display, etc, as someone who has 800 'Yellow 1 x 2 Brick's listed. My
suggestion is a minimalist proposal to fairly spread the costs to keep Brickbay
running reliably.
> I do know at least that the minute this system goes in affect I will close
> my store... this idea is like slapping somebody in the face for trying to
> sell non-regular stuff.
Why is that ? When I looked at your store, you have 50 lots listed, while I have
1200 in my store. I would be impacted much more by this proposal than you would.
I see this proposal costing you an additional 50-cents to $1 per month. In my
store, the additional cost would be somewhere around $20 per month.
> Besides : you'd need to have a special verification system, or otherwise I
> could just delete all parts and re-upload them again every month, bypassing
> your fee structure.
Not true, the method which I proposed would charge a minimal fee at the time
that the lot is added. Removing the lot at the end of the month, then adding it
again would only change the timing of the fee, not avoid it. This is only one
possible method of generating income for Brickbay (and not one that Dan has
blessed or commented on).
> > This would have several effects... it would place the burden more
> > equitably on
> > the sellers with 1) large number of lots, 2) large quantities on
> > individual lots, 3) sellers who have listings, but little or no sales. I
> > do not think this type of charge should be assessed on the price that a
> > lot is offered at (something that I consider very eBay-esque). This would
> > also have the effect of encouraging a few sellers, who have somewhat
> > sloppy habits, to clean up their lots/inventory. I have observed more than
> > a few instances of one seller offering the exact same part in 5-10 lots
> > (small quantities) with varying prices. It would also have the effect of
> > getting sellers to flush out very small quantites (1s and 2s) of parts
> > which have a low resale price point. Small quantities of rare parts should
> > be unaffected.
>
> Why do we NEED to flush out small quantities? Some people only need one or
> two of a certain type of part. I for one only have a few parts in my store,
> all small quantities. I have no problem with it, and I don't think anybody
> else does. If you want more, don't buy from me but look for a seller which
> has large numbers of what you need.
Perhaps 'flush out' was a poor choice of words. We do not have to flush out
small quantities of parts, but please see my comments above about intrinsic
value vs resources consumed. It would be a good idea is to expect a seller to
keep all quantities of a particular part (same color and condition) listed as
one lot rather than multiple small lots. Call it store cleanliness. Almost like
walking into a retailer and finding multiple copies of an item scattered all
over the place rather then neatly organized. (This has happened to me many
times, like trying to find all the Gungan Patrols in a K-mart this past spring)
Ray
<Brickbay://Cosmic Toys/>
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