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Mike Poindexter wrote:
> Copyrights, like all laws, serve a purpose. Sometimes, they protect people
> a lot, like musicians. Sometimes, they protect people only a little, if at
> all, like in your instance. What were the damages? How much did this cost
> you? If somebody stole $5,000, it is grand theft. If they stole 2 cents,
> it is still against the law. But who gets up in arms over that, unless it
> is being multiplied millions of times over with the same entity or group of
> entities benefitting at the expense of another constant group?
Loss of income (or potential income) is basically the crux of the issue.
If you can prove that you potentially lost $2500 due to copyright
infringement, it's a felony. I suppose if you had an auction for a
really expensive item and someone came in and placed the exact
same items before and after your auction using your photo, you
could have grounds... But otherwise it's hardly a defensible position.
Just had to add that in... :)
> Well, I have seen a lot of knock-off TLC designs floating around. I have
> seen a lot of Star Wars creations that are renditions of copyrighted
> material. Clearly, most people consider that to be OK.
There's an interesting point here... Under the Berne Convention of 1972
(which established international copyright law), it's also illegal to modify
copyrighted material. If I bought an expensive sculpture and defaced it,
the artist could sue me for copyright infringement. Likewise if I added an
extra eye, nose, or what have you.
So does the modification of my snowspeeder constitute copyright infringement?
I *am* "ruining" the original design... :) Anyhow, the answer is probably no
since the sets don't come pre-built. But I thought it was funny anyhow.
Chris
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| lawrence wilkes <lawrence_wilkes@msn.com> wrote in message news:Fs8zDC.8o4@lugnet.com... (...) that (...) No, I am not basically saying that. You have a copyright for that picture posted where they can't see it (i.e. it isn't in the auction listing) (...) (24 years ago, 30-Mar-00, to lugnet.market.auction)
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