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Re: Ebay acution - Potential Fraud?
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Sun, 26 Mar 2000 21:15:31 GMT
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I want to know where Lawrence's supposed copyright notice is. I went to his
site and didn't see anyhting.
I think this discussion has gone far enough. It could keep on going and just
get people mad at each other.
I think the most logical thing is that he say Lawrence's auction and saw the
picture and saved it because he knew he was going to be auctioning one himself.
I'm not saying he should have done it.
Ryan
In lugnet.market.auction, Gloria Summers writes:
> In lugnet.market.auction, Lawrence Wilkes writes:
> > In lugnet.market.auction, Mike Stanley writes:
> >
> > > Can you show us how he MUST have gone to your main page and copied it
> > > from there, instead of just fleecing it from your auction page?
> > > Because I just saved both images from the auction listings only and
> > > they're identical.
>
> It doesn't matter whether the person copied it from his web site or his eBay
> auction page, it is still his picture. His auction started first, he has the
> picture on his web site, it is his only. Not seeing a copyright notice does
> not excuse violating it. I know when I buy an opened set on eBay, I want to
> see the actual goods showing the condition of the box and maybe even the set
> assembled in front of it. That is the most proof I am going to get about the
> seller having the set and the condition of the set I am buying. The person who
> buys the goods on this second auction is obviously not going to get the set
> shown there. Who knows what kind of condition this other set is really in?
>
> >
> > Because the image shown in ebay is linked to my website, its not on ebays.
> > Therefore by copying it, albeit whilst perhaps viewing it via ebay, he is
> > copying it from my web site.
> >
> > > He probably never saw your copyright notice on your main page - no
> > > need for him to have gone there.
> >
> >
> > You dont have to see a copyright notice to violate copyright.
> > Ebay rules are quite clear
> > http://pages.ebay.com/help/community/png-copyrights.html
> > eBay Guideline: No Copying Allowed! When you prepare your auction listings • you
> > generally should use only material (text, photographs, etc.) and
> > trademarks/names that you created or own yourself or licensed from the • owners.
> >
> > eBay Guideline: No Unauthorized Linking to Photos! You cannot link to • somebody
> > else's picture (so it appears in your auction) without the owner's • permission.
> >
> > I might be being OTT in suspecting fraud, but still within my rights to
> > question this auction.
>
> You're not over the top on this one. You are alerting a lot of eBay users that
> this is an auction to avoid. I think you can get it stopped too if you send
> off an email to the eBay staff.
>
> >
> > regards
> > lawrence
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| Ryan Dennett <rdennett@firehousemail.com> wrote in message news:Fs1sDv.Hq0@lugnet.com... (...) his (...) Its at the bottom of the page (where such things usually are) and says "copyright 2000 Lawrence Wilkes". Not hard to find. And you dont need a (...) (25 years ago, 26-Mar-00, to lugnet.market.auction)
| | | Re: Ebay acution - Potential Fraud?
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| (...) Modern copyright law doesn't require any display of copyright notices. In fact, if you don't wan't something to be copyrighted, you have to specifically say that, otherwise you still own the copyright (assuming it's your own intellectual (...) (25 years ago, 26-Mar-00, to lugnet.market.auction) !
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| | Re: Ebay acution - Potential Fraud?
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| (...) It doesn't matter whether the person copied it from his web site or his eBay auction page, it is still his picture. His auction started first, he has the picture on his web site, it is his only. Not seeing a copyright notice does not excuse (...) (25 years ago, 26-Mar-00, to lugnet.market.auction)
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