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Re: I wonder where he got the scans from?
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Thu, 28 Oct 1999 05:06:49 GMT
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   OK, when I originally posted, I had two points.  One point was in
response to the person who seemed angry with eBay for not ending the
auction - and I went about saying why I don't think its in eBay's place to
end that auction.  Secondly, I said I don't think TLG cares what we do with
obsolete instructions.  You guys may have a point that TLG may in fact care
about those obsolete instructions, and they may crack down on everybody if
one guy screws up (which would suck).  But we all got harsh with each other
(intended or not) and missed the point.  If you guys don't like what that
guy is doing, bitch at him, not eBay (or Lego).  Actually, my main point
(may have been lost) was don't bitch about eBay because of it - its pretty
useless, as we all know.
   Still, I think you guys blow it out of proportion, as I have seen similar
auctions on European equivalents of eBay quite frequently, but maybe I
underestimate the importance of what you are getting in a fuss about.  I
think the best thing now is for one of us to buy the CD in question and
publish it (if there is anything not already) on the web, so the guy won't
have any future customers.  And also, continue to do what we can to educate
the eBay consumers who pay for such things (as well as other items on eBay
that makes those of us in the know laugh or cringe).
   Somebody (maybe me) could post a neutral feedback linking to brickshelf,
if permissible, or, if not,  saying, "email me to learn how to get the scans
for FREE".  Sorry to cause so much uproar.
--
   Have fun!
   John
Auctions and Trading and More at my Lego site:
http://www114.pair.com/ig88/
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ig88888888@stlnet.com & IG88888888 on AOL
Mike Stanley wrote in message ...
John DiRienzo <ig88888888@stlnet.com> wrote:
  Sorry for the late reply, but...
  I don't think it is illegal to buy or sell CDs with Lego instructions
scans - I've bought six such CDs from various sources.  Unlike video tapes
which all have the FBI warning and software which always has the user
agreement, Lego has a fairness policy.  In selling the scans on CDs, the
seller is not doing anything illegal (or unfair) as long as the scans are • of
discontinued or sets otherwise not readily available.  These CDs have been
sold on eBay, RTL and elsewhere in the past, and I have never heard of • Lego
doing anything to stop it, so why should eBay?  In my eyes, these scans • are
most like shareware (nobody owns them - Lego has seemingly relinquished
ownership, in a way) - and if the guy selling them thinks the time and • money
he has spent in compiling and distributing the CD is worth $10, $20 or • more,
then that is what he should charge for the CD.  Thats all I have to say
about that.

I think it is inappropriate and very likely to have an adverse
effect on TLG's tolerance of brickshelf.com

--
The parts you want and nothing else?
http://jaba.dtrh.com/ - Just Another Brick Auction
Why pay eBay? Run your own LEGO auctions for free!
http://www.guarded-inn.com/bricks/



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  Re: I wonder where he got the scans from?
 
(...) On the contrary, I have been able to shut down an illegal auction by reporting it to eBay. They DO take action, especially if you threaten to report them to the legal department of the company that is getting screwed (which I did... both (...) (25 years ago, 29-Oct-99, to lugnet.general)

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  Re: I wonder where he got the scans from?
 
(...) I think it is inappropriate and very likely to have an adverse effect on TLG's tolerance of brickshelf.com (25 years ago, 28-Oct-99, to lugnet.general)

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